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The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

  • 1.  The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 17 days ago
    Rex the Czech GSD

    Hi everyone,

    I manage Boo's Crew, a German Shepherd rescue. We recently had an adoption post for Rex-a 6-month-old purebred Czech working-line GSD puppy-completely blow up, hitting over 123,000 views.

    Rex was successfully adopted, but the post drew a flood of comments from people complaining about our plan to neuter him before age 1 to 2. They weren't citing research-just dropping emotional comments like, "If you care about this dog at all, you will wait."

    While I easily ignored the social media noise, it did get me thinking about a common operational dilemma we face in rescue. Personally, I am a huge advocate for delayed altering. I waited until my own large GSD, Boo, was 2.5 years old before neutering him to protect his joints and growth plates.

    However, running a rescue introduces administrative and compliance hurdles. Balancing a personal belief in delayed altering with the safety nets of standard rescue protocols (ensuring dogs are altered before ownership fully transfers) is a tough tightrope walk.

    I would love to hear how other professionals handle the logistics of this:

    • Do you allow adopters of large/working breeds to delay altering? If so, how do your organizations structure your contracts to ensure compliance once the dog leaves your direct care?
    • Do you utilize Foster-to-Adopt programs where the rescue retains legal ownership until the dog reaches 18–24 months and is finally altered? If yes, how high is the administrative burden of tracking those dogs over a 2-year period?
    • For those who stick to standard protocols (altering regardless of age), how do you balance your personal veterinary beliefs with your organization's operational rules?

    Looking forward to hearing how your rescues handle the logistics!

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  • 2.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    We are a small 501(c)(3) in Northern New Mexico where we have a very challenging over population problem. Our general rule is Spay or neuter by six months of age. When a puppy is adopted, a contractor signed and a Spay neuter deposit is paid. That deposit is returned with proof of spay or neuter. I generally ask that the deposit be paid with a check which is just never cashed. But if they don't comply, it goes in the bank. I have yet to deposit a check. That fee is $150 and that is enough that people want that deposit back. So far it has worked very well. But there are exceptions. We recently rescued and adopted out a young great Dane. She went to a very experienced couple as a support dog and after talking with them at length, I was very comfortable allowing them to wait until she was a year and a half or two years old. But they are the exception for sure. We work with a number of rescues in Colorado who will take our puppies. We do transfer out as many litters as we possibly can because even though we have free spay and neuter available, the list of excuses goes on and on and on, and we sometimes have to spay a neuter the little ones before they cross state lines. As you say, it's a catch 22. Those puppies will go north and have a much better chance of finding a permanent home where they are cared for as they should be. So we have to do what we don't want to do in order to do what we do want to do! And I know the research continues on the long-term effects of early spay and neuter and for most dogs perhaps it's not as detrimental as we've been led to believe? For the large breeds, I think there has to be a different consideration when possible and it's not always possible. Judy



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    JUDITH PEARSON
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    The Dixon Animal Protection Society
    NM
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  • 3.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    This is def a touchy subject and I feel like you'll get people from both sides of the aisle - tbose who insist you wait and those who will drag you for not doing it before they leave. 

    We have an 8 week old right now who is cryptoorchid and the recommendation is to wait.  We have a strongly worded spay/neuter obligation amendment that we include with a deposit that we refund upon proof of neuter. 

    The biggest challenge, honestly, is the follow-up. It's easy to say "we'll check back in six months," but when you're managing dozens of animals and adopters, keeping those dates straight in a spreadsheet or calendar is not always realistic.

    The software we use has helped a lot with that. If a dog isn't marked as spayed/neutered when the adoption contract is generated, it prompts us to include the spay/neuter amendment. We can then set the required completion date, schedule follow-up reminders for our team, and automatically send the adopter emails requesting proof.

    For us, that has made delayed altering much more workable because there's an actual compliance system behind the contract instead of relying on someone remembering months later that a puppy was adopted intact.

    I don't think there's necessarily one answer that works for every dog or every rescue, but having a way to reliably track the obligation makes us much more comfortable making those decisions individually.   I think you also have to be confident in the adopter being willing to follow through.  



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  • 4.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago
    Personal beliefs aside, we used to, but will no longer send anyone home on spay/neuter contract. For the first time ever, we've had an adopter break contract and not show up for her dog spay with zero responses to attempted communication. It's not even a matter of finances for the adopter, as we pay for everything. This has been nothing but stressful for me and is keeping me up nights wondering what is going on and the upcoming filing of court paperwork, etc.  For my own sanity and the fact that I've had many of my own personal dogs sterilized at young ages with no ill effects, I refuse to go through this nightmare again. While it has only happened one time, it's one time too many for me to take that chance again. 


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    This is def a touchy subject and I feel like you'll get people from both sides of the aisle - tbose who insist you wait and those who will drag...
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    Sep 29, 2026 3:52 AM
    Jessica Potting

    This is def a touchy subject and I feel like you'll get people from both sides of the aisle - tbose who insist you wait and those who will drag you for not doing it before they leave. 

    We have an 8 week old right now who is cryptoorchid and the recommendation is to wait.  We have a strongly worded spay/neuter obligation amendment that we include with a deposit that we refund upon proof of neuter. 

    The biggest challenge, honestly, is the follow-up. It's easy to say "we'll check back in six months," but when you're managing dozens of animals and adopters, keeping those dates straight in a spreadsheet or calendar is not always realistic.

    The software we use has helped a lot with that. If a dog isn't marked as spayed/neutered when the adoption contract is generated, it prompts us to include the spay/neuter amendment. We can then set the required completion date, schedule follow-up reminders for our team, and automatically send the adopter emails requesting proof.

    For us, that has made delayed altering much more workable because there's an actual compliance system behind the contract instead of relying on someone remembering months later that a puppy was adopted intact.

    I don't think there's necessarily one answer that works for every dog or every rescue, but having a way to reliably track the obligation makes us much more comfortable making those decisions individually.   I think you also have to be confident in the adopter being willing to follow through.  



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  • 5.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    If the choice is between spay/neuter as a puppy or a year or two at the shelter, that decision becomes easy. We don't do contracts because our experience is you can't trust people. We have a low-cost vet clinic on site so waiting is something we might be able to consider in the future but the number of court cases for abused, neglected, overbred animals I've dealt with makes me err on the side of not letting them go out of the building unless they're fixed. 



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    Shannon Giles
    Executive Director
    Terre Haute Humane Society
    IN
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  • 6.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 10 days ago

    I think you're 100% right; it depends................  But that one misjudgement  is costly, and I for one never make the same mistake twice!  



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  • 7.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    I also have a rescue.  In the past 5-6 years the breed has become very popular. That of course led to poor breeding including puppymills. Bad breeders do no testing before breeding. Hence, hip dysplasia was/is common. Our orthopedic veterinarian surgeon has done many surgerys on out breed. What we know is that growth plates in our breed, Corgis, do not close until 12-16 months. Dogs need hormones for proper bone growth, Early spay/neuter leads to elongated  and weaker bones.  We do not spay/neuter until a minimum of 12 months. We will put a dog in a home on a foster contract. The adopter acts as a foster until the dog is spayed/neutered.  Note that we only adopt within a our area. If you adopt far from your area this may not be a solution. And of course it is more paperwork.



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    Linda Moore
    Pet's Second Chance for Life Inc, DBA PSC Welsh Corgi Rescue
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  • 8.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    Does your rescue cover all the vet bills, preventives, food, etc during that time waiting for the pupp to hit a year? 

    For most rescues, its the cost to carry the animal on the books for that long that is also a discouragement to wait.

    For some, they would also have to apply for bigger licenses. Mine is limited to 80 animals on our books at a time.

    Just curious how you work the "holds" and their expenses during that time since its a foster contract.



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    Sarah
    Paws in Middle Georgia Animal Rescue
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  • 9.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    First off - He is gorgeous. I can see why he got all the interest.

    I am with a small rescue in middle Georgia. There is a lack of low cost s/n services in our area. There is also education issues. We still have a lot of people that don't believe s/n is necessary. The guys who base their manhood on their dogs balls. Or the ones that put human emotions on the dogs (Why should I neuter him bc he's horny? - I seriously got that response from a guy) 
    Anyway, we neuter all our animals at 8wk. We don't have the volunteer base to have someone tracking to make sure they all get done. We've only had 1 person come back to us blaming us for the dog having health issues due to pediatric spay. However, research in general shows that female dogs are likely to have incontinence issues after spay regardless of age, its just a slightly higher % for pediatric. 
    This is my first year as President and we have decided to make exceptions for certain dogs depending on how we feel about the adopters reliability.

    For larger dogs, we are waiting to do surgery until they have an adopter lined up.
    For XL dogs (we just had a mastiff mix) - if we feel the adopter is responsible and is going to follow through, we have made exceptions to give them until the dog is 1y. We do make them provide a letter from their vet saying 1y as our Dept of Ag has regs that 6m is the cut off (they must be done by 6m) and they have to provide documentation that the surgery was done if they aren't using our services to get the s/n. 

    We are 100% volunteers and since we lost our building in December, we shifted to foster only. Not that we had a huge volunteer base before then, but its even smaller now and many of them wear multiple hats (foster and social media for example) so tracking is really difficult. 
    I did see Ms Pottings response about using software reminders. That might be a good option for us too - even though we don't take in many L/XL breed because we can't find fosters willing to take big dogs.

    Great question/topic. I see where your position is diff than ours though since you are a large breed specific rescue. 



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    Paws in Middle Georgia Animal Rescue
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  • 10.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    We spay and neuter at 8 weeks;   if they aren't sterilized they aren't ready for adoption.

     Like many others said it depends on your context.  We don't have resources to chase people for compliance.  We do have access to spay and neuter.  We have a massive overpopulation problem. We don't have giant breeds.  And the people we serve probably will never see a vet again in the dogs lifetime and so the most important thing is the risk of mammary tumors or accidental litters and not any other health issue.

    ive been in this "business" for over 30 years and ive seen the pendulum swing on early spay and neuter.  Its gonna keep swinging.  But its never been black and white.  It depends on the context.



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  • 11.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    Hi Tami

    We have a very specific working dog program and so do bring in Shepherds and Malinois, for the family side, we have had a couple of Great Danes.

    On the Working Dog program, our contract does state that the adopter will get the dog fixed and that they must show proof. The manager of that program stays in touch with the adopters. Many times, it's an actual business who does search and rescue, so it's definitely easier to hold them accountable.

    On the family side, I am struggling slightly with balancing the best way to manage it. For the Great Danes, we retained legal ownership until they were fixed. However, it did create that extra financial burden b/c then the "foster" still wanted us to cover everything. So I would actually update my contract to go ahead and have them adopt the dog, but have it specifically noted that the rescue will still be responsible for the spay/neuter. 

    We are still managing our dogs primarily with Google sheets as opposed to software, so we have a column in the sheet that indicates when a dog IS fixed or when the dog should be fixed so that we know to follow up and get it scheduled with the vet.

    Hope it helps!



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    Kristen Palm
    Director
    Spencer Pet Rescue
    IL
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  • 12.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago
    Hi Kristen,
    Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It is incredibly helpful to hear how another rescue handles this, especially with high-drive working breeds and giants like Great Danes.
    Your point about avoiding long-term foster setups is spot on. Going straight to full adoption while keeping a specific contract clause for the future surgery sounds like a fantastic compromise. It protects the dog's growth plates while ensuring ownership transfers safely and smoothly right away.
    Thanks again for the excellent insight, and best of luck with your Shepherds, Malinois, and Danes at Spencer Pet Rescue!
    Best,
    Tami
    Boo's Crew GSD Rescue


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    Tami Grady
    Founder/Director
    Boo's Crew: A GSD Rescue Inc
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  • 13.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 16 days ago

    I often wonder why hormone sparing methods can't be used for shelters.  Is the surgery that different if you just do a tubal ligation or vasectomy in dogs and retain the hormone producing organs?  Wouldn't that be a win- win for everyone?



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  • 14.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    I believe that is relatively new to do in dogs. In my opinion, it would mean 2 surgeries. One for the tubal/vasectomy and another for actual s/n.

    Tubal/vasectomy doesn't eliminate heat cycles for females and doesn't prevent males from traveling in search of a female they can smell. Or from mating I would imagine since its all off those hormones for dogs.

    Most owners do the surgery to prevent those last things. I had a dog go in heat once and never again lol. Changing pads on a dog was not my jam.

    When I first saw an article/research on it, I thought it might be a great option for the bigger breeds but then when I really got into it, I wasn't so sure.

    Also though, my guess is its more expensive. For rescues & shelters, so much unfortunately boils down to expenses.  



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    Paws in Middle Georgia Animal Rescue
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  • 15.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago
    The advantages of hormone sparing are stronger bones and joints, lower cancer risk,  Fewer if any UTI's and better metabolic health. 
    The surgery is more expensive, takes more time, and finding a vet experienced in the surgery may be difficult. Although I believe that for the life of the dog it is the best choice. On the other hand I can't see how we could ever use it in a shelter/rescue situatio, especially the additional cost

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    I believe that is relatively new to do in dogs. In my opinion, it would mean 2 surgeries. One for the tubal/vasectomy and another for actual s/n. ... -posted to the "Animal Welfare Professionals" community
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    Sep 30, 2026 4:00 AM
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    I believe that is relatively new to do in dogs. In my opinion, it would mean 2 surgeries. One for the tubal/vasectomy and another for actual s/n.

    Tubal/vasectomy doesn't eliminate heat cycles for females and doesn't prevent males from traveling in search of a female they can smell. Or from mating I would imagine since its all off those hormones for dogs.

    Most owners do the surgery to prevent those last things. I had a dog go in heat once and never again lol. Changing pads on a dog was not my jam.

    When I first saw an article/research on it, I thought it might be a great option for the bigger breeds but then when I really got into it, I wasn't so sure.

    Also though, my guess is its more expensive. For rescues & shelters, so much unfortunately boils down to expenses.  



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  • 16.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 14 days ago

    I think there's room for these alternatives in cases like this one. The primary objective of spay/neuter from the shelter or rescue perspective is reproductive control, not the hormonal changes, and it's the hormonal changes that are in debate. If the adopter is willing to pay for a vasectomy or tubal ligation, that offers an alternative that may meet everyone's needs. 

    Those surgeries are potentially reversible, which could be an issue in rare cases - such as with an especially high value dog like this one. But it still seems preferable to sending home an intact dog, provided the adopter will pay for it and the organization can manage the administrative oversight. 

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  • 17.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    My work at the Alliance for Contraception in Cats and Dogs focuses on non-surgical fertility control and promoting its global accessibility. To do this, we work with animal welfare organizations, nonprofits, academics, biotech companies, and more to advance this field. Not everyone wants to spay/neuter their pet due to their personal or cultural beliefs/stigmas, has access to veterinary services, or has access to skilled surgeons/resources to provide these services,  or the animal has conditions that prevent them from receiving anesthesia.  To learn more about our work check out our website. https://www.acc-d.org/



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  • 18.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    I'm pretty sure they remove the uterus and cervix and leave the ovaries, so there shouldn't be any bleeding associated with a heat cycle. Yes, it does appear that the surgery takes longer and requires more skill. I thought the goal here was to prevent pregnancies, not keep dogs from wandering.  That's what fences and leashes are for. Like with anything else- the more it's demanded, the more it will be available. Why would it be mainstream if there's no demand for it to be?  

    I know all shelters have resource issues. I just think it's worth trying, especially for the very young dogs. I find it really sad when shelters spay/neuter puppies at 8 weeks. Are these dogs really better off if you're setting them up for health problems a few years down the road?



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  • 19.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    It is so interesting to read all the comments on this thread. We seem to be facing many of the exact same issues in different parts of the world.

    I read, for example, that an organization in Georgia is dealing with owners who do not want to neuter their animals because of "horniness" and other reasons that may sound unreasonable to us. At Zero Stray Pawject, we face very similar challenges in Greece, a country of 10 million people, with an estimated 1.5 million pets living in homes and another 3 million homeless and on the streets.

    Population control is critically important, yet we encounter the same resistance to neutering that many of you have described. From women, we hear things like, "I am a mother and want my dog or cat to experience the joy of motherhood." From men: "If you cut my dog's balls, you cut my balls."

    To address this, we developed a campaign called "He Won't Miss Them" (his balls!) to provoke thought and start a conversation. It was a 360-degree campaign across TV, radio, airport banners, bus stops, buses, municipal and outdoor banners in public spaces, celebrities and social media. And it was hugely successful. Kantar recorded 54% campaign recall across Crete, compared with an average campaign recall of 25% and we increased conversion to neutering  (or DNA) significantly (I'll get to DNA later).

    But I also agree with Ruby Lesley that not everyone wants to neuter, and neutering may not be the right option for every dog or cat, whether for health, cultural or religious reasons. Greece therefore became the first country in the world to introduce DNA as an alternative to neutering for population control. 

    Owners who choose not to neuter their pets must submit a DNA sample to a national database, allowing abandoned litters to be traced back to the parent animals and their owners, thereby creating accountability and discouraging uncontrolled breeding and abandonment.

    These exchanges are incredibly valuable, not least because they show how many of us are facing similar issues around the world. If anyone would like to learn more about our work or explore ways to collaborate, please feel free to reach out. Our website is currently being updated, and we will soon have a new site at Zero Stray Pawject, but you can still contact us there.



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  • 20.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 14 days ago

    WOW Silja !!  Wonderful work with "He Won't Miss Them" 😂.  I'm not sure how you track owners of an entire country or region or city much less requiring them to submit DNA if they don't want to spay/neuter their pets but that is AWESOME !!  And  I'm so glad it is successful for yall !  We have an organization in Texas named "Spay It Forward" that is a non-profit that offers pop-up mobile spay/neuter at low cost so that more people can afford.  Just for fun there is an Austin, TX rescue named "Spay It Forward Y'all !" 😁

    Keep up the good work !!



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  • 21.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 14 days ago

    Love this energy, Michele! �� "Spay It Forward Y'all" is an absolutely brilliant name!

    It is so incredibly cool to hear about the creative ways different regions are tackling this issue, from Silja's work to Texas pop-ups. It really shows that while the logistics are a puzzle, the passion in the rescue community is unmatched. Thanks for bringing some fun and a big smile to the thread! ��

    Cheers! 

    Tami

    Boo's Crew






  • 22.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 10 days ago
    I work for the Humane Society of Vero Beach. We have a little of both. We have great fosters that will work with the dogs and keep them a while longer, or the people interested in adopting can't adopt them yet. They can foster them and set up an appointment time and day but the surgery must take place at our clinic by a certain date. If they fail to answer then, yes we will go get the dog. No animal can be adopted from our organization without being spayed or neutered. If it does come down to it we will neuter as early as 8 weeks or 2.2lbs/1kg. It has been done multiple times but we were at an overflow of animals and we were out of fosters and feared the babies would grow up at the shelter. I think it is necessary to deal with this in an individualized manner. There is no one simple answer. We are all doing what we can to provide these babies with a great home and loving futures. Sometimes that means doing things we on a personal level wouldn't do, but it was what we could do for the dogs to have a good future. 
                 

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    WOW Silja !!  Wonderful work with "He Won't Miss Them" ��.  I'm not sure how you track owners of an entire country or region or city much less requiring them to submit DNA if they don't want to spay/neuter their pets but that is AWESOME !!  And  I'm so glad it is successful for yall !  We have an organization in Texas named "Spay It Forward" that is a non-profit that offers pop-up mobile spay/neuter at low cost so that more people can afford.  Just for fun there is an Austin, TX rescue named "Spay It Forward Y'all !" ��

    Keep up the good work !!



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  • 23.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

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    Hi Tamy!

    Thank you for your post so we can have a community conversation! My name is Kimberly Grieser founder of Stray Kitty Rescue. I started the rescue in 2022 after I had bought a home in the inner city of Philadelphia. I realized there were a lot of animals outside suffering and the neighbors were used to them but could only do very little as they are low income seniors. Being the younger person in the neighborhood I started taking the cats to vets and finding them rescue! I said I want to help this problem and I started from there. You hear in me that I am not a vet or an animal welfare professional rather a member of the community. I say this because rescue work has no been perfect for me, and I am sure it is not perfect for many of us here. The focus should always be the animal - getting the animal to the best home, and providing the best possible care. I believe if we all stick to this mission we can help animals and the community by strengthening the human and people bond. 

    To answer your questions!

    • Do you allow adopters of large/working breeds to delay altering? If so, how do your organizations structure your contracts to ensure compliance once the dog leaves your direct care?

    We have taken in several dogs over the years through foster. We have a love for large dogs like German Sheppards and Huskys. We have taken them in from families fleeing domestic violence, from elderly low income homes facing eviction, and place them in foster care. 80% of the time they do not have recent vet records and are unaltered. Again the mission is , how do we help the animal get into the best possible home and provide them care? Before I take in the animal I already start working on the network of fosters 90% of the fosters for dogs have other dogs and I work on getting the dog to a home with a vetted and neutered pet. If this is not the case I work with the foster to vet and neuter their pet. Now I have two dogs that I am getting vetted and neutered! My personal belief? Whew this is difficult because the ideal situation would have a foster only taking care of the current dog in need but turns out they also have a dog in need.  

    • Do you utilize Foster-to-Adopt programs where the rescue retains legal ownership until the dog reaches 18–24 months and is finally altered? If yes, how high is the administrative burden of tracking those dogs over a 2-year period?

    I alter the dog as soon as possible, waiting allows for variables. What is the science behind waiting? How strong is it? Ideally we can wait but we do not get the ideal when we want to save the dog and find them the best possible home. If the ideal in that moment is to have paperwork and legal agreements and contracts then YES lets go ahead and do that bc we have a contract and a type of legal binding agreement. I recommend all rescue to do this and I am happy you brought up this point. The burden has not been high I have waited 3 years for a foster to adopt a cat or a dog I pop in and out and have calls with them a home visit ask how everything is, it's like a long distance friendship and if anything its a great joy to know we have this relationship. It is not a burden at all, we focus on the human and animal bond and again the best outcome for the cat or dog and having someone care for them and tell me how they are doing for years is such good peace of mind!

    • For those who stick to standard protocols (altering regardless of age), how do you balance your personal veterinary beliefs with your organization's operational rules?

    I focus on the mission what is best for the animal and placing the animal in the best possible home. 

    Kimberly Grieser

    Stray Kitty Rescue 

    267-621-9573

    Added Balto and Maggie!! Both now spayed and up to date on vaccines! Maggie was first ofc took several months then came Balto!! A relationship still strong today 

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  • 24.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    Hi Tami- first thank you for the work you do as a likely volunteer for breed rescue. It is amazing how hostile people can be online and how heated the debate around spay neuter is. I always wonder if some of the trolls out there have volunteered at a shelter or with a rescue or if they spend all their time hating online. Personally, I have heard different opinions about spay neuter ages. And as someone who grew up around breeders (sighthounds) but in a household with strays and shelter adopted pets or rescue orgs , I realize that rescue orgs don't have the same luxuries that breeders do. I know ARF used to let some delayed spay and sometimes neuter for the welfare of the animal and have a contract for adopters to bring the animal back to be "fixed" similar to what some breeders do. Some people prefer to adopt a tween age dog that has  mellowed out so maybe your idea of adopting at older age would work. Have you found that people want puppies more or 2 years old too? And canine companions doesn't place dogs with recipients until the dog is two. 



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  • 25.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    We are receiving way too many emails  Please put ua on weekly summary

     






  • 26.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 15 days ago

    Thank you so much for the kind words and the incredible perspective! You hit the nail on the head-rescues operate under completely different constraints than breeders or specialized training organizations like Canine Companions, who have the infrastructure to hold dogs until age two.

    To answer your question about age demand, we actually see a distinct split across the GSD lifecycle:

    • Under 1 Year: These puppies get adopted out incredibly fast because people simply cannot resist those massive, "too-big-for-their-head" puppy ears and the "blank slate" appeal.
    • The 1-Year Mark: This is sadly when we see a massive spike in adolescent surrenders. Owners get overwhelmed when adolescent energy and working-line drive peak.
    • Ages 4 to 6: We actually have a lot of people specifically wanting mature dogs in this age range! Knowing the breed, they love skipping the intense puppy and adolescent "land shark" dynamics to get a dog that has naturally mellowed out.
    • Ages 6 to 7+: On the heartbreaking side, we also get hit up all the time to take in senior dogs at this stage. It's incredibly tough, as many owners face life changes or choose to surrender them right as the dogs start slowing down and showing their age.

    To everyone who has chimed in on this thread: thank you all for this invaluable discussion. Balancing our individual veterinary ideals with the macro-realities of shelter-diversion is no easy task, but sharing these insights makes the tightrope walk a lot easier to navigate!

    Thanks again!

    Tami

    Boo's Crew GSD Rescue ❤️






  • 27.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 13 days ago

    Hi Tami, Thank you for your wonderfully worded and topical post and for this update with a thank you to the group !!

    I'm in the Austin, TX area and I have been volunteering for the first rescue for 7 years & counting, the second about 1 ½ years and the third about 2 ½ years and all have about the same policy on dogs.  If they rescue a dog over 6 months of age then they have it spayed/neutered immediately, unless their vet recommends against or to wait.  If they rescue puppies or pregnant momma then adopt out the puppies before 6 months of age they require, in their adoption contracts, that the adopter have the dog fixed at 6 months of age – free if they use the rescue's vet or provide receipt if using their own vet or letter from vet detailing why sterilization is not recommended for that particular dog.

    A rescue that's 25% puppies but has been rescuing for 27 years, has extensive language in their adoption contract (free w/ rescue's vet, require receipt if owner's vet, TX law 6-8 months and ownership rights are relinquished unless vet letter stating unhealthy/danger for that dog).  BEFORE having them sign the legally binding contract, they go over this with them in person in detail, emphasizing the law regardless of vet push back and that a very small study which showed some health benefits is outweighed by the overwhelming studies and common history that show behavioral issues in intact adults males vs males fixed in adolescence AND that if they fail to comply the rescue retains ownership and the adopter must return the dog.  The tedious part is the follow up in which they contact the adopter at 5 months of age (email first then phone call) to schedule surgery with rescue's vet for them or get date & vet that owner is using then follow up to get receipt.  <u5:p></u5:p>They get push back from about 1 in 10 but ultimately they are successful, however I'm sure over 27 years there have been 1 or 2 real battles and I'm not asking.   😉

    A rescue that is 75% puppies says "Our processes is about the same. We have a volunteer that spends their time solely to spay/neuter records, information, and follow-up. All dogs in rescue that are 6 months or more are spayed/neutered before adoption, we have made some exceptions with vet advice for health concerns with some dogs and puppies, but with follow-up at every step with vet records and documentation. Puppies can be adopted prior to being spayed/neutered with vet appointments on the books, and ownership is not transferred until we receive the spay/neuter record."


    Last rescue that is 25% puppies but also has been rescuing about 27 years, does sterilize dogs over 6 months immediately and also requires adopters to sterilize at 6 months of age if adopting younger (again free w/ rescue's vet or vet receipt if not).   I doubt they have a lot of follow up but maybe they do just in an ebb and flow fashion depending on availability of an amenable volunteer.

    I know this is wordy and probably common with most rescues, like I said in TX it's a law, but FYI.

    Michele Maitland



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  • 28.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 14 days ago

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  • 29.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 14 days ago
    I have a breed specific rescue and I have volunteered at our government shelter for over twenty years. There absolutely is a huge difference. A government shelter must take every animal. It might be strays, owner relinquish, hoarding situations, and more. They are responsible for patrolling the streets, assisting police, cruelty investigating, and more.A government shelter can never be compared to a not-for-profit shelter or a rescue. These shelters are an important part of a city/county.  They do what most other shelters can not and would not.  And they don't get enough credit for what they do.  They must spay/neuter. THere is no way that they could follow-up with each adopter.

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  • 30.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 13 days ago

    This has been an interesting thread to follow. There has been some good information and perspective shared here but I feel the need to jump in to correct some misinformation and add a few more thoughts for consideration. 

    First, what we "know" and "don't know" about the health benefit/detriment analysis regarding S/N. Far too much generalization and extrapolation is happening than is warranted by the evidence.  

    For example, the following statements from this thread are demonstrably untrue, exaggerated or not supported by any published data: 

    "Early spay/neuter leads to elongated  and weaker bones."  

    A few limited studies in purebred dog breeds (mostly Golden Retriever and Labrador Retriever), with small sample sizes have demonstrated a potential correlation between S/N and CCL injury. A couple of other studies have found a correlation between S/N and hip dysplasia in GSD. Other studies (some conducted in European countries where dogs are less likely to be S/N) have already called those correlations into question...finding that breed, body weight and conformation are bigger risk factors than S/N status. Importantly, there are no studies in large, representative (including mixed breeds) populations of dogs evaluated by primary care veterinarians (rather than specialty or referral clinics which are likely to be a skewed population). We should be asking researchers why they continue to refuse to conduct research on those representative populations or account for those confounding variables. Could it be that, if they do, the S/N correlation will no longer be significant? Also, there are zero studies with significant sample sizes or good quality data correlating S/N with ANY OTHER ORTHOPEDIC CONDITION (developmental orthopedic disease, "arthritis", IVDD, chondrodysplasia, etc.).  

    "...Research in general shows that female dogs are likely to have incontinence issues after spay regardless of age, its just a slightly higher % for pediatric. " 

    While it does appear that urinary incontinence may be correlated with S/N, it is hardly a "common" condition (across many studies, the average incidence appears to be around 5%), it is unclear if age at S/N plays a role, and some studies (in European countries) have found specifics breeds to be a bigger risk factor than being spayed. 

    " The advantages of hormone sparing are stronger bones and joints, lower cancer risk,  Fewer if any UTI's and better metabolic health."  

    See notes above about orthopedic conditions. There is a "lower cancer risk" for a few, specific, relatively rare cancers like hemangiosarcoma, osteosarcoma, etc. (except in breeds known to be at elevated risk) in intact dogs. Many studies have found breed increases risk for these cancers much more than S/N. There is a higher risk for other cancers in intact dogs (some of which are much more common) such as mammary carcinoma, prostate cancer, testicular cancer, mast cell tumors, etc. Risk for many of those cancers is not generally associated with breed or other factors, but almost exclusively with retention of gonadal hormones. Urinary tract infections (along with juvenile/recessed vulva) are not more common in S/N dogs...conclusively demonstrated in multiple studies. Metabolic and inflammatory diseases have also been studied and risk for them has not been associated with S/N status. Risk for "obesity" (which could be considered a metabolic condition) is higher in S/N dogs but is offset by adjustments to caloric intake and exercise. 

    So, what do we "know"...studies (across decades, countries and representative populations of dogs) have concluded that >20% of intact female dogs will develop pyometra, ~13% of intact female dogs will develop mammary carcinoma, >80% of intact male dogs will develop prostatic hyperplasia (a much more serious problem than most folks realize, esp. If their dogs have always been neutered). There are a number of other health conditions strongly associated with retention of gonads. We also know, based on multiple studies of large representative populations (some with more than a million dogs included) from multiple countries, that S/N dogs live longer (which also, incidentally, raises the risk for all cancers; longer lifespan=more cancer).

    Behavioral impacts of S/N are unclear/equivocal/inconsistent, there is no validated, standardized assessment instrument and the current studies are often based on unreliable behavioral assessments by owners (we all know how good owners are at assessing behavior 😀), so a lot more study is needed here before any conclusions can be drawn. However, hormonally-mediated behaviors (maternal aggression, estrus behavior, inter-animal aggression in males, roaming, marking, breeding behavior, etc.) are common reasons for surrender or abandonment of dogs. And spare me the argument that those behaviors occur in S/N dogs. We accept without questioning "who can even live with an intact cat?" for the same behaviors. We have been castrating male livestock species and horses for >100 years because of the husbandry and housing challenges and safety risks of intact males. Why are we questioning if those same behaviors are hormonally mediated in dogs??  Why are we expecting the "average" owner to be capable or willing to manage intact dogs responsibly, when we don't expect the same of "average" horse or cat owners? 

    But, for me, the question of S/N, particularly for shelters and community health organizations, goes far beyond the health benefit/detriment analysis. Globally, there are 700-800 million dogs (and a similar number of cats)...up to 80% of which are considered free-roaming; 59,000 people die of rabies every year, mostly due to dog bites; in many places both cats and dogs have essentially become invasive species due to their impact on the environment, public health, and wildlife species; shelters and rescues in the U.S. are struggling and overwhelmed as unaltered adults and unplanned litters flood through their doors....management of those populations created by humans MUST be the priority, control of reproduction is key to that, and HQHVSN and pediatric/juvenile S/N are the most proven, safe, evidence-based methods to accomplish that. Dogs and cats often move between classifications (free-roaming, stray, sheltered, owned) throughout their lives so the impact of the decision of a shelter or private owner to delay or forego S/N for a pet may continue to ripple downstream for years. Are private pet owners who choose to forego or delay S/N actually making an informed decision that considers all the factors that affect that choice? Not if all they know is S/N might cause cancer or arthritis, according to social media or a click-bait headline. 

    From an access to care/cost of care standpoint, pediatric S/N is the most efficient, accessible, cost-effective method of reproduction control available. The costs and long-term health benefit/detriment analysis for non-surgical or novel surgical sterilization methods are almost entirely unknown and unstudied at this time. We should not presume that gonad-sparing sterilization would be a "win-win" for everyone. We should not "give it a try and see what happens". 

    For organizations that are adopting out intact pets but retaining ownership until S/N or creating contracts to ensure S/N...what will you do when that female dog develops pyometra? Will YOU be responsible for the $5-10k emergency surgery invoice? Will you pay the cost difference between juvenile S/N and adult S/N (often double, triple or more in cost at many private practices). If the adopter finds they cannot afford those costs/manage an intact pet and returns the pet how does that impact your capacity for care and surgical capacity? While most HQHVSN are comfortable with large/obese/in-heat S/N, there is no question those surgeries take longer and require more staff and financial resources...the more of them you do, the fewer total surgeries you can do with the same resources. What will you do when an adopter shows up at your door with an unplanned litter produced by the unaltered dog you adopted to them? Those puppies will be taking the place in your shelter and in adopter homes that was needed for all the puppies produced by dogs where we didn't have the opportunity to intervene before they arrived.  At a time when there are far more dogs needing homes than there are adopters to take them. How will we identify shelter pets/owned pets that have had "gonad-sparing" procedures so that when they wind up back in the shelter system, we know their reproductive status, what diseases we need to be on the lookout for or what care they may require before adoption? Many will require repeated treatments (for non-surgical contraceptive methods) and have secondary sex characteristics that make them appear fully intact. Only 5% of private practice vets report tattooing sterilized pets as it is and microchip companies may or may not provide that information. We already spend a lot of time trying to discern if pet has been altered at the time of intake...what a nightmare if we start introducing novel methods of sterilization without figuring out how to address this problem. 

    All of this to say...this is a far more complicated issue than many have been led to believe, but I would argue it is neither a conundrum nor a controversial question in the shelter/rescue/welfare/access to care world. And I have barely scratched the surface in this post. This is the hill I will die on. Want to hear more? Come see my presentation on this topic at the Spay Alliance conference next week! #spayneutersaveslives 



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  • 31.  RE: The Rescue Catch-22: Balancing Personal Beliefs on Delayed Neutering with Organizational Realities

    Posted 12 days ago

    WOW ! WOW ! WOW !  This is AMAZING Dr. Powell !  Very very detailed, including information I've never heard and probably would have never been able to find (or understand), yet easy to read and comprehend so kudos to you (and no wonder you will be an honored speaker at the Spay Alliance conference next week).    Yes, I wanted to say in a response "to all" that there is NO EARTHLY REASON to not S/N every pet in the world asap.  I'm just a volunteer and dog (pet) lover and I don't have any clinical/medical knowledge to back that up but I'm 58 years old and have lived in the South my entire life.  At a young age, before social media and rescues and large government shelters (which still fail terribly even w/ $21 million tax dollars Austin😠), I saw many strays and dogs that were terribly neglected by owners.  Of course that is no different now but as a 6-7 year old child seeing  your neighbor's dog burn in 110 degree days, starve, go without water and be COVERED in ticks puts things in to perspective.  When she knew the neighbor wasn't home, my mother would even let us climb the chain link fence and give him food, water and pick the TICKS off him with our BARE HANDS because we would sit out by the fence and cry for hours (it seemed).  Anyway, I digress - I ask that people that are against S/N or at least at an early age go to the local shelters (online if not in South) or checkout a few rescues' FB pages (alot in North/NE adopt out dogs they've saved from South) or the saddest is search "saving shelter dogs from euthanasia" on FB then choose "Groups" and you will read the most appalling stories (and pictures) then  dare not ask these GOOD SAMARITANS why they believe in S/N !!  NOTE: if your default local search doesn't hit then mark try adding "in Houston", "in San Antonio", "in Oklahoma", "in Louisiana", in Los Angeles" ...

    SORRY FOR THE RANT !!  And thank you from the bottom of my broken heart Dr. Powell !



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