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  • 1.  Staff unwilling to budge

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 12-28-2023 07:26 AM
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    Our adoption policies/processes are too strict and hurting our animals chances of adoptions.  We of course look adoption applicants up in our system for past information.  Beyond that staff does a background check on every applicant (looking up their criminal/court records) and denying on so many past offenses that can even have occurred over 10 years ago.  About the only offense overlooked are those related to speeding.  They then will google/FB check people and their families.  Then of course there is general mistrust of people and biases that come into play.  This digging of info obviously also takes time and visitors are often waiting awhile for the application to even be reviewed/approved for them to be allowed to then visit animals.  The entire adoption experience for visitors is not pleasant .  All the while our animals are deteriorating and are stressed due to being with us too long, we are euthanizing for such behaviors, and are beyond capacity , We have tried all we can to help the team understand there are better ways, how we ourselves are big barriers for our animals, share with them resources we find on the topic, etc.  We've expressed our understanding of how they feel protective of the animals, how much they care, etc.  There isn't a conversation we haven't tried or had with them.  Any attempt we make to get them to lighten up (even trying to compromise a little by allowing them to continue the background checks, but with some guidelines) is met with resistance.  We are at a loss on what to do and aren't optimistic we will be able to get through to them.  Has anyone else dealt with (or even overcome) this?  Any suggestions/thoughts?


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  • 2.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-28-2023 08:18 AM

    I think finding a well established organization that has gone from strict adoption polices to more relaxed but successful adoption polices that would be willing to tell their story and their success would help enlighten your staff. I know there are some good organizations in MA that have done just that.  I even believe Maddie has a webinar on this?  Oh great moderator, is that true? It's always tough teaching an old dog new tricks for some reason. They spend too much energy digging in v. digging out so we have to work with that deficiency.

    Any shelters out there that have gone through this transition and can shed some light out there?



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    Mary Lou Maraganis
    President
    Animal Rescue Konnection
    Gloucester MA
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  • 3.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-28-2023 08:38 AM

    So here is our adoption process and it's quick:

    • Fill out application online
    • If they own, I check the county property appraiser site to check if true, if they lied, I decline. If the rent, I call the landlord and make sure its all in order. I also check the national do not adopt list. If I am on the fence, I do a quick background check online but a criminal background history is not always a decline. It depends on how old they were at time of offense, what type of offense. I do a Facebook search and a Google search and check out posts if I can find anything. 
    • I call the person same or next day depending on the above. Then we discuss the choice of cat, etc... 
    • I ask for a virtual house visit. That means they can do it on their Iphone or a video before I come out or let them come and take a cat. The virtual visit is non-invasive. I just ask them to go to the front outside of their house and walk into their front door so I can see the  house number clearly and compare the house to pictures on zillow or other realtor sites if possible. Then I just ask them to show me general living space and if they have a room set up for the cat the actual room.
    • Once we do the visit to make sure it all in order, then either I take the cat to them or they come meet and pick the cat up. 
    • They sign the contract ahead of time through Adobe electronically if they have a computer

    Most people I have adopted to are fine with that. I also ask for photos of the house if they cannot do the virtual visit only because I dont' want to waste my time driving and getting people's hopes up of adoption when I cannot approve. The house visit is mainly to  make sure I do not have hoarding situation at hand and most serious adopters dont' mind at all. This also allows for me to sometimes adopt to people that are hours away but have a gorgeous home and they are willing to come pick the cat up so it expands our adoption market and it saves me time driving to every adopter to deliver the cat. I build lifelong relationships with my adopters, and many send me pictures years after and I love it!

    Hope this is informative. 

    Brigitte



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    [BRIGITTE] [IVORY]
    [President]
    [DART/Duette Animal Rescue Team, Inc,]
    [Duette] [Florida]
    [www.duetteanimalrescue.org]
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  • 4.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

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    Posted 01-03-2024 08:15 AM
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    Hi Brigitte,

    Can you please elaborate on the National DNA list you are referring to? How does one get access? We have our own list that we maintain (breed-specidic rescue) but it would be useful to have an expanded list and contribute to it as well. Thank you!




  • 5.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-28-2023 08:39 AM

    I just posted a reply, we are one of the few rescues to do house visits from what I understand but we make it really easy we think. 



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    [BRIGITTE] [IVORY]
    [President]
    [DART/Duette Animal Rescue Team, Inc,]
    [Duette] [Florida]
    [www.duetteanimalrescue.org]
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  • 6.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-28-2023 12:13 PM
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    Hello Mary Lou, 

    You are correct, we do have several presentations that could help here - from getting your boss (and staff) to say Yes to making change fun.  Attached is a list with links to the talks.  

    Please let us know if one of these was the one you were thinking about or if we should dig deeper!

    Alison



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    Alison Gibson
    Media Projects Manager
    Maddie's Fund
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  • 7.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-28-2023 09:17 AM

    It's hard to change people's minds when they're hyper-focused on specific incidents that 'prove' you need barriers to adoption versus looking at the overall data. And it's even harder when the shelter culture surrounding them supports that viewpoint. Essentially, it's really hard to take emotion out of it. I actually ended up choosing to move to a shelter that had more people-forward policies; but I hope you can be the first step in that direction at your shelter!

    But, here's a great article Best Friends posted on this topic that I hope can help: https://network.bestfriends.org/proven-strategies/program-spotlights/reflecting-rescue-roadblocks 

    In addition, barriers to adoption can often be (unintentionally) pretty discriminatory, which is typically not the intent and absolutely not something we want our shelters or movement to be known for! Best Friends has another article that touches on this that I recommend: https://network.bestfriends.org/proven-strategies/program-spotlights/staff-experiences-racism-animal-welfare



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    Erin Dams
    Community Relations Coordinator
    Roanoke Valley SPCA
    Roanoke VA
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  • 8.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-29-2023 06:24 AM

    Testing out any changes as a "pilot program" can sound less scary-- this webcast may be helpful: https://www.maddiesfund.org/piloting-new-programs-in-shelters.htm?p=topic1038



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    Kelly Duer
    Senior Community Solutions Specialist
    Maddie's Fund
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  • 9.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-29-2023 06:50 AM

    I echo Kelly's suggestion.  When I tell my staff "let's try this for a month and then evaluate" they ease off of their resistance.  And no one ever remembers to evaluate at the end of the month -- by then it's just habit!

    We encourage people to visit animals before they fill out an application. Generally we have an overnight review process, but with overcrowding being what it is I am pushing staff to do reviews same day if they have the time.  All of our office staff know how often we have to turn down a stray or surrender, so they understand that moving our current residents out in a timely manner is necessary.



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    Johanna Humbert
    Michiana Humane Society
    Michigan City IN
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  • 10.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-29-2023 04:27 PM

    I am sorry you are going through this and the line between finding the "perfect" adopters verses finding good homes for animals can get blurred for some staff as it is an emotionally charged job.  We did experience similar issues in the past, where staff would turn away someone for small or unproven issues like smelling of cigarette smoke though the adopter said they only smoke outdoors.  

    The reality is that no human is perfect and if you are having to euthanize because "good enough" adopters are being turned away, perhaps you could use this fact as incentive for staff to open their minds a little bit.  Is it better for an animal to be put down or spend many months in a shelter environment or be with a person that had a non-animal related small felony 10 years ago?  

    You could also ask staff to think about all the people in their lives outside of work that they love, respect and think are good human beings - with the current criteria being used, would those people be allowed to adopt now?   It might help them to see that many people have small flaws that do not make them "good" adopters on paper.  

    With the current capacity issues for many organizations, it seems most people that do not have animal related past issues or hoarding and are allowed to have animals in their living quarters should get consideration.  



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    Jenna Ricci
    Volunteer
    Rocky Mountain Feline Rescue
    CO
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  • 11.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 12-31-2023 10:37 AM

    I have held the adoption coordinator role for several years for a foster based rescue. Early on we were being very strict, and as we grew we realized some people we deemed not perfect "to our standards" would still have provided loving homes to a cat/dog.  As the poster stated, no one is perfect and a not so perfect past shouldn't mean you are not suitable to provide a loving home for a pet. Many factors need to be considered and weighed as an overall assessment. In the end it is what's best for the animal, even if it is a no to a specific adopter. 



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    Joanne Davis
    Director
    Lifesaving Pet Rescue
    PA
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  • 12.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 01-02-2024 12:43 PM

    Joanne, do you have any paperwork I can look at for an adoption coordinator position? I need help with our program and its hard to find good information on this.



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    Alyson Harms
    Animal Shelter Manager
    The Bullhead City Animal Shelter
    AZ
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  • 13.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 01-01-2024 04:09 AM

    Amazing best practices have been shared.  Sometimes you can convince someone by sharing how others do it and taking those pieces that are the best fits for your organization and revising yours.  We have built our process over the past 20 years enhancing it as we go.  

    Our meticulous adoption process is designed to ensure the well-being of our rescue pets and their future homes. Here's a step-by-step breakdown:

    1. Application Submission and Social Media Review:

      • We begin by carefully reviewing each application received.
      • As part of our thorough vetting process, we also check social media, including Facebook, to gain insights into recent posts and activities.
    2. Initial Email Contact:

      • Upon receipt of the application, we initiate contact via email to establish a connection.
      • This initial conversation serves as an opportunity to delve deeper into the applicant's preferences and motivations for adopting a pet.
    3. Screening for Compatibility:

      • We proactively explore details such as the type of pet desired and the purpose behind the adoption, ensuring a responsible and compassionate match.
      • Red flags, such as intending to gift a pet without the recipient's involvement or using a kitten to address challenges in an existing rescue, are carefully addressed.
    4. In-Person Meeting:

      • If the email exchange reveals no concerns, we arrange a face-to-face meeting between the applicant and the pet of interest.
      • This personal interaction helps establish a connection and assess compatibility.
    5. Home Visit:

      • Following a positive initial meeting, we schedule a comprehensive home visit.
      • Our focus during the visit is on identifying any potential issues, such as hoarding situations or inadequate living conditions for a pet.
    6. Application Review and Decision:

      • Based on the outcome of the home visit, we thoroughly evaluate the applicant's suitability as a pet owner.
      • Applications may be declined if there are concerns about planned activities like declawing or if the living environment raises red flags.
    7. Finalization and Pet Pickup:

      • Applicants who successfully pass all stages are invited to complete the final paperwork.
      • Upon completion, they are authorized to pick up their new furry companion, confident in their commitment to responsible pet ownership.
    8. Decision Grounded in Ethical Practices:

      • Our commitment to ethical pet adoption guides every decision we make, including turning down applicants with plans that may compromise the well-being of the pet.

    By adhering to this comprehensive process, we ensure that our rescue pets find loving, suitable homes while promoting responsible and compassionate pet ownership.

    Hope this helps !!



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    Ginger Higgins
    Program Associate
    Atlanta Animal Rescue Friends (AARF)
    GA
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  • 14.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 01-03-2024 08:15 AM
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    When I started at the County Shelter years ago, there were a few rules we had to abide by - ANY and Every 'bully-type' dog had to pass people, dog, and cat test along with no resource guarding. if not, they were PTS. Same group had to have a potential adopter home check - by Animal Control Officers- primarily for fencing integrity. The cat side required cats to be social - whether inside, inside/outside, or outside only, or PTS. Volunteers, working hard with management, got a lot of this changed - resource guarders didn't go home with little kids, no yard for a bully was OK if the people were apparently able to exercise dog on leash, otherwise inside. Cats had opportunities to be Alternate Placement/Barn cats. We Volunteer adoption counselors worked together to ask more of the right questions out in the yard or on a parallel walk with potential adopters and their home dogs if there was one. Dogs evaluated for cat compatibility if adopters had a cat. Then the cat side wanted the same for people with dogs who wanted a cat.

    Covid came and they switched to foster to adopt - fewer questions asked because fewer experienced (older) volunteers were not willing/able to come in to do counseling. There were mistakes made, plenty of returns, some lost animals, some injuries. 

    Volunteers and Staff are doing adoptions and Foster to adopt matches now. Mistakes are still being made, but fewer. Questions are being asked, evaluations done for dog families who want cats, training is happening and/or about  to happen for newer vols who greet the public, so they know more about how to ask open ended questions, questions that don't give away the 'acceptable' answer.  There is some re-start of collaboration - that is,one volunteer or staff asking another to come over and talk and watch and check for the red flags, and green flags. We talk to the children - it is amazing what a kid will say ("we haven't had a kitty since Daddy kicked Fluffy and Fluffy went away that night")

    It both sucks and is amazing what doing adoptions by talking with people can do. You see people who think they know it all and so don't. A little convo about what a person does outside of work or which park they like the best can reveal a lot if you just listen - if someone has some coaching on what /how to say. For years I've had previous adopters call me, send pictures, ask for help, provide items the shelter  needs, stop me in the store to say "you adopted Poopsie to us 8 years ago, and she is the best dog we could have ever hoped for". You can also have the worst day when you have to tell a family they can't take this kitty home AT THIS TIME, because they had  no apparent connection with the dog to turn away and stop barking/lunging at the cat behind the fence. But when you describe what the behavior does to the cat, and have viable suggestions (and maybe demonstrate) what training they and the dog need before it might work, and please come back in 2 months and show me the progress and we'll figure it then - it is worth the time and effort - because when they come back and can show they can handle the behavior, it is wonderful to see how proud and determined they are to be able to safely take that cat home. If they don't come back, I'm good with that, and so are the cats (or chickens or rabbits) and management. But you don't know that when you first start, and I'd suggest you don't know it from most criminal records, either. We get that with time and experience and working with newer folks to point out the concerns and how to work with them - you don't get that from social media or police records either.

    Pair up adoption counselors - staff and volunteers. Do some practical training to get a more true picture of how to greet folks and get useful information to share, have more conversations and data exchange with more people who work with the animals. Listen. help. Do the best you can. All those animals in cages depend on judgement and thinking by you to be able to get into a safe home. Be available for questions post adoption. Keep records on who did which adoption and what animals get returned. Intake and Outcome and LOS aren't the only data points to determine your shelter's success. It's hard, but it is worth it.




  • 15.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 01-02-2024 09:26 AM
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    Why is it an option for them to ignore you and behave in ways that drive off visitors and result in harm to animals? Management needs to step in. Staff should not be allowed to just do whatever they want when it's the wrong approach, against what the supervisors want, and negatively affecting the animals the organization is caring for.

    The new procedures should be spelled out clearly, come from the top down, and not be a suggestion. If people continue with the old way of doing things, they are not fulfilling their job duties and they are deliberately disobeying their supervisors. Give a set number of warnings and after that, you may need to start letting people go. 

    I realize that sounds harsh but the dogs in your care don't have time to wait around for people who may never change their minds about the adoption process.




  • 16.  RE: Staff unwilling to budge

    Posted 01-02-2024 02:14 PM

    One of the most effective ways I've experienced to help people realize that adoption/foster policies are overly stringent is to ask if they would be able to adopt or become a foster in your organization. Would they be considered as an adopter or foster or would they be eliminated by one of the adoption/foster policies? 

    Years ago, I worked in a shelter where we did this to re-evaluate our policies. First, we asked every staff member and volunteer if they would have any hesitation allowing the other staff members and volunteers in the room to adopt or foster one of our animals. We then went through every single requirement (barrier) and asked every staff/volunteer to honestly ask themselves if they fell within each guideline, asking them not to answer out loud. After we had gone through every requirement, we asked them to write down Yes (if they passed every requirement ) or No (if they didn't) on a piece of paper and turn it in. We then tallied how many Yes and No papers we had. It was a major Aha moment. Everyone in that room said they would adopt to the other staff members and volunteers but the tally showed that more than half of them wouldn't pass our own adoption or foster requirements! It made us realize that everything isn't black and white and that an application should be the start of a conversation, not a tool for elimination. 

    On paper, I failed as an adopter in so many ways -- I had a dog who wasn't up to date on his vaccinations (he had cancer and his vet recommended he not have certain vaccines); Ten years earlier, I had a dog in a rental property that didn't allow dogs; I worked outside the home for more than 8 hours a day -- but every one of my coworkers would have adopted out to me in a heartbeat... because they knew me. 

    Sometimes it takes a mirror to realize our biases and that we are not "better" than the people who come to us looking for a companion. I hope this helps. Best of luck to you in helping to reduce the barriers in your organization!



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    Kim Domerofski (she/her)
    Community Manager
    Maddie's Fund
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