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To URL or not to URL?

  • 1.  To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-03-2023 07:37 AM

    Social media question, friends!

    For the pesky Facebook algorithms, we know we should avoid adding URLs to our posts.

    But how do you handle scheduled posts that "need" a URL?

    We're prepping for a one-day donation drive that's managed by a third party, so supporters have to go to a special site to donate, not our own.

    Any thoughts, ideas, suggestions?

    Thanks in advance!


    #MarketingandSocialMedia

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    Deirdre Jack
    Lone Star Bulldog Club Rescue
    dfwbulldogrescue.org
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  • 2.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 06:19 AM

    I'm not sure how the algorithm is setup but I'm wondering if you hide the link text, like paste the link and let the image to the site post and then delete the actual url, if they would penalize that. Or if you put the URL in the comments of the post so that the post gets high engagement and you can direct them to go to the comments for the link. Or add the link to as a separate pinned post on your page. 

    Very frustrating trying to.work around these algorithms 



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    Amanda Gray
    Fundraising and Grants Manager
    Operation Liberation
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  • 3.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 06:50 AM

    Thanks, Amanda!

    Yes, typically, we refer readers to the comments for the URL, but that's when we're online  so we can add that URL to the comments right when we post....  it's the scheduled posts that are problematic. We're scheduling those so we don't have to be locked down to our computers.  

    I didn't think about pinning the info ~ we'll definitely do that!  

    Thanks much!



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    Deirdre Jack
    Lone Star Bulldog Club Rescue
    dfwbulldogrescue.org
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  • 4.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 08:24 AM

    We post an original photo but include the link in the written part of the post. That way it's not set up to draw via the link and lower views. The original photo, even if something made on Canva, allows the views...yet you can stick that link in there and people still easily see it and can click. It's what's worked best for us thus far. We get under 25 views if we try to just use the link with the auto-view-thingie that pulls up...even with events on FB that they encourage you to share. 🙄 



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    Allison Rathert
    Founder/President
    k9.5 Rescue
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  • 5.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 12:28 PM

    Ruh roh! I didn't know this info, thank you for this great question!

    We typically use Canva or Adobe Express to schedule our posts. Do we still get penalized if an URL is included in the written copy of our scheduled post, but an original photo is attached to it?

    Or do we only get penalized if an auto-published post appears in our feed, without copy or an original photo, just the thumbnail preview synopsis of the article?  

    I'm thinking I need to catch up on this stuff! 



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    Rene Agredano
    Tripawds
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  • 6.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 01:02 PM

    My understanding is that any external link with your post is not going to be served to as many followers because FB doesn't want us pushing people off their platform. 



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    Deirdre Jack
    Lone Star Bulldog Club Rescue
    dfwbulldogrescue.org
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  • 7.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-04-2023 01:24 PM

    Ah, thank you for clarifying. Time to start re-thinking posts I guess. Grr.



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    Rene Agredano
    Tripawds
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  • 8.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-06-2023 03:49 PM

    I love using Canva too, but I thought it might be helpful to know that posting from third party services lowers reach on the social platforms. It's a pain because we want to streamline the process, but the social platforms want you to post directly with their editor. Just something to keep in mind if you see a problem with reach in your stats.



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    Mercedes Jennings
    Media Manager / Designer
    Saint Martin's Animal Foundation
    CA
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  • 9.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-05-2023 06:16 AM

    Hi there! 

    My name is Tiffany Ditto and I have years of experience in Digital Marketing and a MS in Digital Communication Analytics. Technically, all social media platforms aim to keep you on the platform and engaging with more content for longer because they make more money off of ad revenue this way and have the opportunity to learn more about you (remember the content is not the product, you are.). However, I wouldn't invest much stock in the "algorithm not liking links." Facebook and other platforms value engagement over everything else. So, the more people comment, like, or share your post, the more they will show it to a wider audience.  The algorithm is simply a statistical/mathematical equation that assigns a value to each of the aforementioned actions. The platform doesn't care what type of content it is, as long as people find it engaging. You would do yourself more of a disservice not to put a link in your posts.

    I never recommend making a post to appease the algorithm. It won't perform well because you're creating something without using a human-first approach. You won't get many donations, website visits, adoptions, etc., if it's too hard for the audience to find the thing they are searching for or if there are too many steps involved. Think about the type of content you click on while online, what type of photos you look at, and what type of videos make you stop and watch the whole thing. Create that type of content. 

    I hope that helps! 

    #Marketing #Social Media 



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    Tiffany Ditto
    Director of Marketing and Communications
    Texas Coalition for Animal Protection
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  • 10.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-05-2023 06:22 AM

    Thanks, Tiffany~ the social media sessions I attended at the Best Friends National Conference provided different advice. I guess it's all about testing your options with your audience and determining what works best. 



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    Deirdre Jack
    Lone Star Bulldog Club Rescue
    dfwbulldogrescue.org
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  • 11.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-05-2023 06:33 AM

    I really wish that were the case, but in order to improve our engagement I do think it's important to look at what the research says drives visibility and engagement on social media posts.

    It seems that there have been some studies done on what the engagement looks like with and without links and it does appear that adding links decreases engagement by 50%. If you have evidence contrary to this, I would love to see it!

    https://www.socialinsider.io/blog/link-in-facebook-comment/



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    Amanda Gray
    Fundraising and Grants Manager
    Operation Liberation
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  • 12.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-05-2023 07:27 AM

    Absolutely! 

    Here is an experiment done at the end of last year by Clover Media Founder, Eddie Garrison. 

    Facebook has even shared details on how the mathematical equation scores content. It can be found here. "The algorithm" is more complex than definitive statements because it constantly collects millions of data points from individual users. Then, it takes that information (about each person and what they're more likely to click on, like, share, comment on, etc.) and populates a feed for them. This is why marketers and marketing agencies say you should create content with a people-first approach. 

    Buffer, a leading social media marketing agency, also published an article on this topic, citing engaging posts as the number one factor for appearing on user's timelines. 

    Light Span Digital found that posts without links did see more engagement, but brands shouldn't put links in the comments because  "One is that placing a link in a comment seems like a hard sell, something brands are careful to avoid. Another is that it may look like the brand did not take the time and effort to create content for the platform, something a brand never wants to be accused of. Also, on mobile devices, posts are often shown without comments for ease of scrolling. A link wouldn't catch attention. "

    Light Span goes on to say, "The important thing to remember is that if you want high Facebook engagement rates, simply linking to your content is not the most effective way to gain traction. Dedication to creative approaches on the platform itself will pay off in the long run." 

    So, the issue isn't necessarily links; it's a variety of factors at play -- which is what my original post aimed to say in a more brief format. 

    If your goal is actually to receive donations, you don't want the decision to donate to be a hunt for the user because they won't follow through. Donations and other emotionally driven buys are impulsive decisions... so you want them to be easy for the user and an action they take the moment they see the content. If not, the audience isn't likely to donate because they will see another piece of content and be on to the next thing. Marketing and social media are largely about human psychology. I think too often we get caught up in the technical side and forget it's people we are trying to reach, people we are talking to, and people we are trying to convince at the end of the day, not a computer reading a database of numbers. 😊



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    Tiffany Ditto
    Director of Marketing and Communications
    Texas Coalition for Animal Protection
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  • 13.  RE: To URL or not to URL?

    Posted 09-06-2023 10:50 AM

    Thank you so much for this. I've never been told that URLs were inhibiting engagement. In fact, if I post a "beautiful cat" (aka a seal point) engagement is THROUGH THE ROOF, with URLs in the caption.  Meanwhile, posting a black cat, engagement is subpar. I always include a URL to our adoption application, because that's how you get people to your website! 



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    Maddie Corey
    Simply Cats
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