Updated 12/11/23 at 3:30pm - Recording is now available to watch on-demand
We hope to see you on Monday, 12/11/23 at 11am PT for our next Community Conversations call where we will be holding a very important and timely discussion on canine infectious respiratory disease complex.
A panel of experts will discuss practical steps to reduce respiratory disease risk in shelters from all the usual suspects, as well as the latest understanding of the "mysterious respiratory illness" in dogs. Hear from Dr. Cynda Crawford, Clinical Associate Professor in Shelter Medicine at the University of Florida, Dr. @Cynthia Karsten, Director of Outreach at UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine and Dr. Scott Weese, Director of the Centre for Public Health and Zoonoses at the University of Guelph and author of the "Worms & Germs Blog." Attendees will have a chance to submit written questions in the chat during the call.
If you have questions you would like our panelists to address, you can ask them here and we will have our panelists answer live if time permits. Otherwise they will respond on this thread after the call.
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Unanswered questions from the chat related to streptococcus zooepidemicus (strep zoo):
Unanswered question from the chat:
"If shelters recommending to quarantine a new adoptive dog before interacting with other dogs and going into public, what is the quarantine timeframe?"
This is another place where we need to consider risk/benefit - and reality. Some of things to think about when talking with the new adopters is what their situation is at home and how easily or possible it is to keep the resident dog(s) separate from the newly adopted dog. For some people this could be relatively easy and for some people it could be practically impossible - and thus cause both the person and the dog additional stress. Also important to consider is the age, health status and vaccination status of the resident dog(s). As Dr. Weese discussed, older, already comprised dogs have more risk than younger, healthy dogs. It also depends if the adopted dog is showing clinical signs currently, has recovered (and how long has it been since last clinical signs) or have they not yet had clinical signs. Fully recovered dogs are likely (but not completely) to be the least infectious disease risk. With clinical signs, especially early in the disease as was discussed, is likely to be the highest infectious disease risk. And the has not yet been sick, is the wild card - they may or may not be a risk at all.
So our best approach is help people understand the risk/benefit and let them make the best decisions on what will work best for their situation and helping them navigate being as low risk as possible.
------------------------------Cynthia Karsten, DVM, DABVP (Shelter Medicine Practice)
Director of OutreachUC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine ProgramSacramento CA------------------------------
Original Message:Sent: 12-07-2023 10:33 AMFrom: Maddie's Pet Forum AdminSubject: Community Conversations - 12/11/23 - Canine Infectious Respiratory Disease Complex
"Are there recommended preventions or prophylactic meds?"
"If a dog has had - and recovered from - a respiratory issue... is that dog more susceptible for another respiratory issue? Even if the dog is current on vaccines?"
It really depends. As was discussed on the call, 'kennel cough' or canine infectious respiratory disease syndrome (CIRDS) is a complex. Many times it is not known what pathogen(s) are involved. For some of the pathogens, for example distemper, if the dog recovers, they are unlikely to get distemper again. However, even if vaccinated for all of the pathogens that there are vaccines for, the dog could still be exposed to some that we don't and thus get sick. Additionally, it depends on how sick the dog was and it there are any long term impacts after their recovery. All this is to say, we can't and don't know for sure, so the best that we can do is have good husbandry and biosecurity practices and policies in our shelters (and in our homes) to keep animals as healthy and low risk as possible. These practices include (but are not limited to) vaccination on intake with DHPP and a three way intranasal (bordetella, parainfluenza, adeno), double compartment housing, daily (or more) monitoring for clinical signs of illness, isolating sick animals as soon as clinical signs are noted, keeping LOS as short as possible and keeping the population within the organization's capacity for care.
"Are you seeing most of the increase in households where they may have difficulties in accessing vet care/vaccines?"
"How quickly would you recommend a vaccine be given to the dog after reconstitution?"
Ideally modified live vaccines are given immediately after being reconstituted. This is because the different components begin to break down rather quickly after reconstitution, distemper being the first to go. I usually tell folks 15 minutes, knowing that time can sneak by on us as we're busy doing all of the intake processing, so that there is a sense of urgency to administering vaccines quickly once reconstituted. Most vaccine labels say within an hour but I personally would not use vaccines that had been reconstituted for that long. I'll always error on pulling up a new vaccine if I'm not sure of the time frame - it's too important. A wasted vaccines is better than an unprotected animal.
"When administered as directed, are we recommending Influenza vaccination for boarding dogs? Dogs in foster homes?"
Unanswered questions from the chat related to Bordetella:
Thanks to the over 300+ attendees who joined us for today's Community Conversations call. The recording is now available to watch on-demand. You can find a recap of today's call below. If you have any additional questions for our panelists, feel free to "Reply" to this thread with them.
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Dr. Cynda Crawford, Clinical Associate Professor in Shelter Medicine, College of Veterinary Medicine, University of Florida
Dr. Cynthia L Karsten, Director of Outreach, UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine
Dr. Scott Weese, Director, Centre for Public Health and Zoonoses
Dr. Weese's Worms and Germs blog http://www.wormsandgermsblog.com
Dr. Weese's article "Mystery Dog Respiratory Disease (Or Not) and Antibiotics (Or Not)" https://www.wormsandgermsblog.com/?s=dog+respiratory
University of Florida Shelter Medicine Program https://sheltermedicine.vetmed.ufl.edu/
UC Davis Koret Shelter Medicine Program https://www.sheltermedicine.com/
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