Animal Welfare Professionals

Thanks to the 161+ people and pets who joined us on today's call! The recording is now available to watch and below you'll find a full recap of today's Community Conversation. 

• Welcome from hosts
  • @Shonyae Johnson, Director of Virtual Programming, Humane Rescue Alliance https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/
  • @Lawrence Minnis, Director of Workforce Development, Humane Rescue Alliance https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/
    
    
• National Updates
  • Goodpup Webinar Thursday June 13 at 2pm about Transforming Post Adoption Behavior Support.  Presented by Morgan Rivera about our successes with Char Meck and Second Chance NYC!  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/918947265007?aff=oddtdtcreator
  • The Association for Animal Care Advancement - Solutions Summit: https://learning.theaawa.org/solutions-summit
    https://learning.theaawa.org/the-solutions-summit-ataglance
  • Faunalytics will host a free, remote symposium for animal advocates on September 19, 2024. Fauna Connections: Using Data to Help Animals. We invite academics and scientists from the social and behavioral sciences, or related disciplines, to submit a presentation abstract of original research that discusses the real-life implications and recommendations of such data for animal advocates in any of four areas: farmed animals, companion animals, wild animals, and animals used in science. Applications for presentations are due by July 12th.  https://faunalytics.org/fauna-connections
  • Dog Adoption Decision-Making
    • Follow Lawrence Minnis' Facebook page created as part of a dissertation study researching dog adoption decision-making https://www.facebook.com/people/Dog-Adoption-Decision-Making/61556634178861/
    • Watch his Community Conversations presentation on the topic: https://forum.maddiesfund.org/discussion/community-conversations-91123-top-dog-adoption-decision-making-factors
  • Community Cats Podcast
    •  Surrender Prevention Certification Workshop on Wednesday, June 19th from 7:00 PM to 8:30 PM ET https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/surrender-prevention-certification-workshop-june-2024/
    • The Drop Trap: A Trapper's Best Friend on Saturday, June 22nd from 2:00 PM to 4:30 PM ET - free! https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/the-drop-trap-a-trappers-best-friend-presented-by-neighborhood-cats-june-2024/
    • It's also paper collar season, click here for a template! https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/paper-collar/
  • Maddie's Fund Monthly Giveaways!  Enter here for a chance to win CA$H: https://www.maddiesfund.org/weekly-community-conversations-june24giveaway.htm Open to all who are watching live or on-demand! Be sure to enter each week you attend!
    
    
• May 2024 Grant Winners
  • Weekly Community Conversations - 2 winners of $2,500 each:
    • Kathy Janssen from Humane Society of Southern Arizona, Tucson, AZ https://hssaz.org/
    • Susan Gainey from It Takes A Village No-Kill Rescue, Evansville, IN https://itvrescue.org/
  • Maddie's^® Pet Forum- 1 Winner of $3,000!
    • Jordyn Katzman from Furry Friends Refuge, West Des Moines, IA https://furryfriendsrefuge.org/
      
      
• Today's Presentation -  Navigating Opposing Visions & Goals Between Veterinarians and Leadership in Shelters – Weekly Community Conversations 6/10/24
  • Guest Speaker: Dr. Jyothi Robertson, DVM, JVR Shelter Strategies
  • Related Links
    • JVR Shelter Strategies https://www.shelterstrategies.com/
    • The Journey You Own: Practices for Well-being and Productivity (Course): https://university.maddiesfund.org/products/the-journey-you-own-practices-for-well-being-and-productivity
    • Veterinarians and Leadership at Animal Sheltering Organizations (Survey Form): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSINZWFHLD-acDFNzwxXUhJrdoNS7j4WT79Is2kqP0_R0LIg/viewform
      
      
• Highlights from the chat
  • "Medical- Dr Lisa Brinlee (used to be Branstad) YVAS Billings Montana. Nice to see you, Jyothi! We were class of 2005 together!" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Still great questions.  Very valid." - Johanna Humbert
  • "Yes, to all of these questions!" - Alexis Svehla
  • "yes, these seem to still be valid" - Allison Lamb
  • "Great questions!" - Steph Kendrick
  • "Just curious if the VL were only in leadership or were practicing medicine while being in leadership?" - Allison Lamb
    • "VL can be practicing while being in leadership" - Clinton Mauck
  • "$$$" - Jennifer Bradley
  • "For a full time position in another org that would help her get her loans paid" - Michelle Russillo
  • "discrepancy of priorities and values between leadership and them as well as work load" - Ashley Mikulsky
  • "I see: Conflict with leadership" - June Thomas
  • "compensation, taking away from their current business, no time off" - Kim Jackson
  • "Non-Vets - What has led veterinarians to leave your organization?" - Shonyae Johnson
    • "can barely have one to work with our rescue. we have to bounce from one to another" - Kim Jackson
  • "Poor leadership and communication; compassion fatigues and burnout (related to workload)" - Karen Green
  • "i would say new opportunity or type of practice" - Amanda Gray
  • "Poor leadership and communication" - Johnny Jenkins
  • "Unfortunately I have seen regular people with no medical experience telling the vet what to do." - Sunny Levine
  • "Compensation." - CaSandra Nash
  • "compassion fatigue, unfortunately we've worked with 2 great veterinarians who decided to leave practice all together bc of this." - Marcella Janes
  • "Animal and community impact" - Sarah Hicks
  • "To help the animals I can" - Sunny Levine
  • "I stay cause I love my team. I stay cause work life balance us important and I believe in the mission that our team believes in too" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Feeling like vet decisions and recommendations are respected by leadership." - Lauren Overman
  • "Also a love of the team" - Sarah Hicks
  • "They support me trying things. I get a chance to grow and gain new skills" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Pulled by the need to support the animals and team, and the sense that someone will need to do it" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "Appreciation and gratitude with autonomy" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Leadership taking brief passive roles and learning from the Vet team" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "The Veterinarian has the education to make decision that non-veterinarian's don't. This happens a lot" - Kim Jackson
  • "definitely the professional respect, as an RN myself I have complex conversations and dialogue with the veterinarians we work with (private vet offices that we contract with) and I'm able to fundamentally understand their medical advice and ask the pertinent questions. As a rescue I see a lot of rescues disrespect vets and discount their recommendations. This can strain relationships" - Marcella Janes
    • "yes" - Kim Jackson
  • "This appears to highlight the need for leadership development systems and resources being shared with Vet teams within organizations. I had a pair of conversations with veterinarians last week, and both highlighted the desire to learn and grow on the leadership competency" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "collaborative communications with transformational leadership and less task based communication" - Marcella Janes
  • "IT resonates but if each one thinks the opposite how do you get each other to see what they think and make changes" - Karen Baker
    • "Identifying heuristics (mental short cuts) that may be used and explicitly acknowledging the assumptions that relied on. Being aware of this can open one's awareness of the errors that occur with the heuristics and assumptions used" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "In my experience over the years having more training for rescue/shelter staff on communications and conflict resolution would be a big game changer" - Sunny Levine
  • "Kurt Krukenberg...Humane Society Silicon Valley" - Krista Coutts
  • "It took us months to get negativity out of our staff. It did mean letting a vet and a staff member go to make it happen. Thank you for this presentation, it is EXTREMELY validating!" - Mikhaila Worle
  • "Wonderful - I did a doctoral program for leadership and communication with veterinarians - on 2015" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Thank you, Jyothi. Great information from the study" - Sunny Levine
  • "Thank you so much, Jyothi!!!" - Mary Flores
  • "Excellent presentation- thank you" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Really appreciate this,!  Much needed info for our group at present!" - April King
  • "Thanks for the insightful presentation, Jyothi. The solution to access to care requires an assessment of all our animal well-being systems, and vets are at the core." - Johnny Jenkins
  • "Thank you for the great and informative session!" - Danielle Brady

Hi, is the link to the survey for the study in the comments somewhere? Thanks!

Thanks to the 161+ people and pets who joined us on today's call! The recording is now available to watch and below you'll find a full recap of today's Community Conversation. 

• Welcome from hosts
  • @Shonyae Johnson, Director of Virtual Programming, Humane Rescue Alliance https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/
  • @Lawrence Minnis, Director of Workforce Development, Humane Rescue Alliance https://www.humanerescuealliance.org/
    
    
• National Updates
  • Goodpup Webinar Thursday June 13 at 2pm about Transforming Post Adoption Behavior Support.  Presented by Morgan Rivera about our successes with Char Meck and Second Chance NYC!  https://www.eventbrite.com/e/918947265007?aff=oddtdtcreator
  • The Association for Animal Care Advancement - Solutions Summit: https://learning.theaawa.org/solutions-summit
    https://learning.theaawa.org/the-solutions-summit-ataglance
  • Faunalytics will host a free, remote symposium for animal advocates on September 19, 2024. Fauna Connections: Using Data to Help Animals. We invite academics and scientists from the social and behavioral sciences, or related disciplines, to submit a presentation abstract of original research that discusses the real-life implications and recommendations of such data for animal advocates in any of four areas: farmed animals, companion animals, wild animals, and animals used in science. Applications for presentations are due by July 12th.  https://faunalytics.org/fauna-connections
  • Dog Adoption Decision-Making
    • Follow Lawrence Minnis' Facebook page created as part of a dissertation study researching dog adoption decision-making https://www.facebook.com/people/Dog-Adoption-Decision-Making/61556634178861/
    • Watch his Community Conversations presentation on the topic: https://forum.maddiesfund.org/discussion/community-conversations-91123-top-dog-adoption-decision-making-factors
  • Community Cats Podcast
    •  Surrender Prevention Certification Workshop on Wednesday, June 19th from 7:00 PM to 8:30 PM ET https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/surrender-prevention-certification-workshop-june-2024/
    • The Drop Trap: A Trapper's Best Friend on Saturday, June 22nd from 2:00 PM to 4:30 PM ET - free! https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/events/the-drop-trap-a-trappers-best-friend-presented-by-neighborhood-cats-june-2024/
    • It's also paper collar season, click here for a template! https://www.communitycatspodcast.com/paper-collar/
  • Maddie's Fund Monthly Giveaways!  Enter here for a chance to win CA$H: https://www.maddiesfund.org/weekly-community-conversations-june24giveaway.htm Open to all who are watching live or on-demand! Be sure to enter each week you attend!
    
    
• May 2024 Grant Winners
  • Weekly Community Conversations - 2 winners of $2,500 each:
    • Kathy Janssen from Humane Society of Southern Arizona, Tucson, AZ https://hssaz.org/
    • Susan Gainey from It Takes A Village No-Kill Rescue, Evansville, IN https://itvrescue.org/
  • Maddie's^® Pet Forum- 1 Winner of $3,000!
    • Jordyn Katzman from Furry Friends Refuge, West Des Moines, IA https://furryfriendsrefuge.org/
      
      
• Today's Presentation -  Navigating Opposing Visions & Goals Between Veterinarians and Leadership in Shelters – Weekly Community Conversations 6/10/24
  • Guest Speaker: Dr. Jyothi Robertson, DVM, JVR Shelter Strategies
  • Related Links
    • JVR Shelter Strategies https://www.shelterstrategies.com/
    • The Journey You Own: Practices for Well-being and Productivity (Course): https://university.maddiesfund.org/products/the-journey-you-own-practices-for-well-being-and-productivity
    • Veterinarians and Leadership at Animal Sheltering Organizations (Survey Form): https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdSINZWFHLD-acDFNzwxXUhJrdoNS7j4WT79Is2kqP0_R0LIg/viewform
      
      
• Highlights from the chat
  • "Medical- Dr Lisa Brinlee (used to be Branstad) YVAS Billings Montana. Nice to see you, Jyothi! We were class of 2005 together!" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Still great questions.  Very valid." - Johanna Humbert
  • "Yes, to all of these questions!" - Alexis Svehla
  • "yes, these seem to still be valid" - Allison Lamb
  • "Great questions!" - Steph Kendrick
  • "Just curious if the VL were only in leadership or were practicing medicine while being in leadership?" - Allison Lamb
    • "VL can be practicing while being in leadership" - Clinton Mauck
  • "$$$" - Jennifer Bradley
  • "For a full time position in another org that would help her get her loans paid" - Michelle Russillo
  • "discrepancy of priorities and values between leadership and them as well as work load" - Ashley Mikulsky
  • "I see: Conflict with leadership" - June Thomas
  • "compensation, taking away from their current business, no time off" - Kim Jackson
  • "Non-Vets - What has led veterinarians to leave your organization?" - Shonyae Johnson
    • "can barely have one to work with our rescue. we have to bounce from one to another" - Kim Jackson
  • "Poor leadership and communication; compassion fatigues and burnout (related to workload)" - Karen Green
  • "i would say new opportunity or type of practice" - Amanda Gray
  • "Poor leadership and communication" - Johnny Jenkins
  • "Unfortunately I have seen regular people with no medical experience telling the vet what to do." - Sunny Levine
  • "Compensation." - CaSandra Nash
  • "compassion fatigue, unfortunately we've worked with 2 great veterinarians who decided to leave practice all together bc of this." - Marcella Janes
  • "Animal and community impact" - Sarah Hicks
  • "To help the animals I can" - Sunny Levine
  • "I stay cause I love my team. I stay cause work life balance us important and I believe in the mission that our team believes in too" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Feeling like vet decisions and recommendations are respected by leadership." - Lauren Overman
  • "Also a love of the team" - Sarah Hicks
  • "They support me trying things. I get a chance to grow and gain new skills" - Lisa Brinlee
  • "Pulled by the need to support the animals and team, and the sense that someone will need to do it" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "Appreciation and gratitude with autonomy" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Leadership taking brief passive roles and learning from the Vet team" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "The Veterinarian has the education to make decision that non-veterinarian's don't. This happens a lot" - Kim Jackson
  • "definitely the professional respect, as an RN myself I have complex conversations and dialogue with the veterinarians we work with (private vet offices that we contract with) and I'm able to fundamentally understand their medical advice and ask the pertinent questions. As a rescue I see a lot of rescues disrespect vets and discount their recommendations. This can strain relationships" - Marcella Janes
    • "yes" - Kim Jackson
  • "This appears to highlight the need for leadership development systems and resources being shared with Vet teams within organizations. I had a pair of conversations with veterinarians last week, and both highlighted the desire to learn and grow on the leadership competency" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "collaborative communications with transformational leadership and less task based communication" - Marcella Janes
  • "IT resonates but if each one thinks the opposite how do you get each other to see what they think and make changes" - Karen Baker
    • "Identifying heuristics (mental short cuts) that may be used and explicitly acknowledging the assumptions that relied on. Being aware of this can open one's awareness of the errors that occur with the heuristics and assumptions used" - Lawrence Minnis
  • "In my experience over the years having more training for rescue/shelter staff on communications and conflict resolution would be a big game changer" - Sunny Levine
  • "Kurt Krukenberg...Humane Society Silicon Valley" - Krista Coutts
  • "It took us months to get negativity out of our staff. It did mean letting a vet and a staff member go to make it happen. Thank you for this presentation, it is EXTREMELY validating!" - Mikhaila Worle
  • "Wonderful - I did a doctoral program for leadership and communication with veterinarians - on 2015" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Thank you, Jyothi. Great information from the study" - Sunny Levine
  • "Thank you so much, Jyothi!!!" - Mary Flores
  • "Excellent presentation- thank you" - Michelle Russillo
  • "Really appreciate this,!  Much needed info for our group at present!" - April King
  • "Thanks for the insightful presentation, Jyothi. The solution to access to care requires an assessment of all our animal well-being systems, and vets are at the core." - Johnny Jenkins
  • "Thank you for the great and informative session!" - Danielle Brady

Unanswered question from the chat:

"Just curious if the VL were only in leadership or were practicing medicine while being in leadership?"

Unanswered question from the chat:

"I would be really curious if your data showed any insight or differences when a veterinarian is in a leadership role and leading other veterinarians or when veterinarians in shelters are led by a director that is a veterinarian.  Are there any differences when a veterinarian is separated from being both the veterinarian and in the leadership role?"