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Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

  • 1.  Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 07-26-2024 02:20 PM

    As in many places, the shelters in my area are full. People who find dogs are reporting being told to let them loose if they cannot foster them. The rationale is that they will find their way home. 

    I am researching alternatives to that policy and also whether that is the norm.

    I am appreciative for any help.

    Thank you.


    #FieldServicesandPublicSafety*

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    Phyllis Brust
    Director
    CareerMutt
    FL
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  • 2.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 07-28-2024 04:35 PM

    Hi, at Memphis Animal Services the ACO don't have to pick up dogs unless they're injured or aggressive. 

    People who find a stray are asked to foster them. I don't work at the shelter, but I work with dog advocates in Memphis. The shelter is a very high kill shelter. 



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    Catherine Pipe
    Owner
    We Foster Dogs Organization
    Cordova TN
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  • 3.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 07-28-2024 09:25 PM

    Hi Catherine,

    We are 60 miles north of Memphis in Arkansas - a rural area. The local ACOs will pick up strays if they have an open kennel.  But, like this weekend, two puppies about 10-12 weeks old were found on Main Street. The local police department called us instead of the ACO because they do not work on the weekends. 
    We are over our maximum capacity -  we had to decline these two.    Three weeks ago, the ACO showed up on our property with eight puppies about six weeks old because they did not have an open kennel.   There doesn't seem to be an end in sight.  We are trying to find a method to enforce the county-wide spay and neuter, but this will not happen quickly.

    For found pets, we operate a lost and found page that has proven to be a great resource for reuniting animals. If the finder holds the pet, we will also offer a crate, food, and medical care. Sometimes, this is a win-win for everyone. 

    Connie 



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    Connie Ash
    Director
    Mended Paws Sanctuary
    AR
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  • 4.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 08-03-2024 02:44 PM

    Hi, Connie, you do fabulous work with everything that your sanctuary does for the unwanted dogs. You put Memphis Shelter to shame. Our population is apathetic and unmotivated to help find homes for strays and Shelter dogs. Our small group of volunteers that network the shelters Critical dogs are the only people who actively seek homes & Rescues for these dogs. I've managed to build a small following on Nextdoor where I post the Critical dogs (in trying to recruit Fosters), but the actual number of neighbors who sign up to foster is very low. 

    I created a self- funded website to provide an alternative showcase for these dogs because not everyone uses Facebook, and one of the top posts is why Shelter dogs get euthanized! Really. We have volunteer women who go out in to  the worst areas of Memphis to feed stray dogs. Our ACO told one woman that she was not allowed to feed the dogs as he just sat there, did nothing, and just  watched her work. 

    Our shelter and city do nothing about the strays. We have spay/neuter laws that are not enforced, and adopters were being allowed to take  unfixed dogs from the shelter if the adopter promised to get the dog fixed. There were no Vets on staff at the time. Budget cuts made by the Mayor. This is Memphis. 

    You mentioned having a Lost/Found service that is working. Can you tell me a bit about that? Our terrible shelter still thinks killing dogs is a solution to our stray population. 

    I am heartbroken at seeing so many fabulous dogs and puppies killed by the shelter that I am looking for ways to stop this madness. 

    Thank you, Connie

    Catherine 



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    Catherine Pipe
    Owner
    We Foster Dogs Organization
    Cordova TN
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  • 5.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 08-04-2024 09:20 PM

    Hi Catherine, 
    Thank you, but our work barely scratches the surface of our county's needs. Our county has no centralized shelter or ACO.   You mention the ACO officer watching as someone feeds homeless animals; we recently had a community volunteer arrested for feeding cats in a very sketchy part of town; she was attacked by someone whose group of friends said the volunteer attacked her.  The lady has no family, so I bonded her out of jail.  It was a fiasco - thankful the volunteer hasn't given up her passion for feeding the homeless cats. 

    A single volunteer primarily manages our lost and found page.  We have people looking for their pets forward a picture of the pet, description, and area where the pet was lost.  We post on social media and text the appropriate ACO with a picture of the pet.   It has taken years to cultivate a following on the page.  But, our community has embraced helping us locate lost pets. 

    Please feel free to contact me if I can help you in any way. 
    Connie 



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    Connie Ash
    Director
    Mended Paws Sanctuary
    AR
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  • 6.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-16-2024 05:10 AM

    Have you considered signing up for PetcoLoveLost? It's a free, nationwide platform for posting lost/found animals. Petco uses "facial recognition software" for lack of a better term to match lost pets to like-looking found pets. Anyone can post. Petco provides free advertising tools to let people know about the program. I'd say their recognition software is still a work in progress, but with AI advancements, I imagine it will get better and better over time. Also, as a user, you will become eligible for grant consideration. 



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    Renee Milner
    Nonprofit Board Member
    Animal Shelter Alliance of Rhea
    TN
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  • 7.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-16-2024 09:41 PM

    Hi Renee,

    Thank you for the information - we have not looked at PetcoLoveLost! But, we will!

    Another Reason I Love this Platform! 



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    Connie Ash
    Director
    Mended Paws Sanctuary
    AR
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  • 8.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 07-29-2024 09:23 AM

    In North Carolina, each county has a designated shelter that all strays have to go to, and also a 72 hour stray hold that must be reported to the non emergency county line.  At the shelter I work with we do regularly have to turn away strays as kennel space is full, but also because most states will have a mandated protocol on how to house and report them.  If shelters are denying strays that does make sense, but they should be offering guidance to one main location, or county resource for reports to at least be made.  Not sure that helps! 

    Lily Korpella

    Brother Wolf Animal Rescue

    Customer Service Agent

    Asheville, NC 



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    Lily Korpella
    Customer Service Agent
    Brother Wolf Animal Rescue
    NC
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  • 9.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 07-29-2024 09:58 AM

    I think everyone is in the same boat right now. It's like we have took a step back in time and now are faced with a massive population explosion due to the "wants" of down time during covid. We are also a very rural shelter. Our county has a 14% unemployment rate and a declining population. 

    We offer web sites to people to try to re-home their own pets. We have all but quit taking owner surrenders. You took the responsibility of that dog; you see it to the end. Now, there are exceptions to this rule. Right now, our D.O.A. (humans) that have animals and no family or friends to accept the canines we will take, provided we have room. We also make no promises as to the outcome.

     Our other issue that has tripled is abandoned animals. In this year alone, we have had 4x the cases of previous years, that people are moving and abandoning their animals in the house or property. Most of these are rental property where they have been allowed to have the animals. I feel the responsibility falls back on the landowner. 

    This first half of this year our reclaim of dogs has declined compared to previous years. This has also created a larger number of dogs in the shelter.  Being forced into the position of telling people we cannot take the dog they found on the side of the road is taxing to us and the public.

    We ask for photos of the canine and a contact person for the owner to reclaim the stray dog and post on Facebook. 

    One local lady has set up a LOST AND FOUND Facebook page and it is gaining ground.  It has helped to keep some would be strays out of the shelter and returned to their owner without our involvement. This has been very helpful! 

    Full is full. But the public doesn't understand these small words. They think as long as they have the need there will be a spot to fill it. They are learning differently. I think this turn away is going to be become more of the normal response than anyone has anticipated in the next 3-5 years. The cup of "save them all" has now runth over. The system and the spots are full. Shelter workers know the definition of insanity is... E one good dog to bring in another good dog. Our hearts are tired and hurt. 

    I believe eventually, there will have to be a law about spaying and neutering of canines to get this over abundance across the states even somewhat under control. But until then, we all do the best we can. We offer a leash, bowls, food, kennel to help them until we have room. 



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    Dee Cummins
    Dog Warden/Operations Manager
    Meigs County Rescue & Adoption Center
    OH
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  • 10.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 08-03-2024 02:56 PM

    Hi, here in Memphis there is a spay/neuter law, but it's not enforced. In a recent budget cut by the Mayor, the shelter Vets were let go. The shelter wasn't fixing the dogs. The other 2 low cost organizations were backlogged on dogs to fix. Couldn't even make an appointment to fix a dog. We only have 3 low cost spay/neuter organizations including the shelter in this city of millions of people. The s/n law here is a bad joke. 

    Catherine 



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    Catherine Pipe
    Owner
    We Foster Dogs Organization
    Cordova TN
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  • 11.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-18-2024 05:07 PM

    Hi Dee, 

    Thank you for sharing your situation with the group. You are not alone! We are having the same problem; we are packed-full. This past week, we have declined 23 dogs. It is sad, but it is the reality when people do not take responsibility. We can only continue to assist our local law enforcement when someone is incarcerated, but if we have space like you, we can not make any promises. 

    As I read through this thread, it is reassuring to know that others are in the same situation; often, in animal rescue, you can feel alone in the battle. 
    Connie 



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    Connie Ash
    Director
    Mended Paws Sanctuary
    AR
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  • 12.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-04-2024 09:26 AM

    We are a municipal shelter and are pretty much always over capacity. When we continue to have stray dogs, we offer the citizen to do an offsite hold and we will intake them into our system and list them. This ensures them we will take the pet once a spot opens up, but it could be a few days. Unfortunately, if they say they cannot do that we do not really have an option for them other than to not pick the animal up.



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    tara deaguilera
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  • 13.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-04-2024 10:23 AM

    Hi Phyllis, 

    Check out this research paper that I worked on when I was in Dallas.  https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/veterinary-science/articles/10.3389/fvets.2021.669428/full

    Our research found that most dogs were "lost" near home. If you have the data capacity you can heat map where you have populations of loose/lost dogs. If possible focus on activities that educate neighbors to reunite dogs with their families(always prioritizing public safety), offer free microchip and ID services and education  in that area and incentivize staff to Return to Owner in the field. 

    Meeting  people where they are  and supporting the community prioritizes in the way they want to be supported have always worked for me. 

    Hope this helps. Rae 



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    rachel williams
    CA
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  • 14.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-04-2024 11:31 AM

    In our area, that is the norm. We tell people if you can't foster them while we try for find homes or get them transported then do not pick them up because once you do they are yours. We offer help with food, no matter if they keep them or they are willing to go feed them.  Its sad yes, very sad indeed but this is what the world is coming to without stricter spay and neuter laws. (and cheaper prices)



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    Sandy LaFontaine
    Volunteer Transport Coordinator
    Poteau Valley Humane Society
    OK
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  • 15.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-05-2024 07:12 AM

    Good morning,

    Legally, an open admission shelter cannot deny the intake of a stray pet. Due to the increase of the shelter populations and decrease in adoption rates, more and more shelters are left with pets with longer shelter stays and space limited for new intakes.  In an effort to reduce intake, field services may be attempting to defer intake by refusing to pick up strays in the field, unless they are sick or injured.  Some organizations may build out field service programming to increase self-help measures by the communities experiencing these issues. There are studies that indicate that most pets do not stray far from home, so posting on social media and neighborhood apps,  holding the pet for a 24-48 hour period may help the pet get back home, or fostering short-term with assistance from the shelter. This does help the pet ultimately as it prevents the pet from entering the shelter environment, owner reclaim fees....; but, if a resident cannot hold on to the pet, they should not be told to let it go.  They should be given all options including bringing the pet to the shelter if needed. Transparency. A trip to the local shelter could change their mind about holding on to the pet. It may even open other avenues. 



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    Michelle George
    Director of Community Animal CARE
    Companions and Animals for Reform and Equity
    GA
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  • 16.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    Posted 09-09-2024 08:02 AM

    Hello,

    We recently ended our contract with our county animal control.  They only paid us $20K/year to house an unlimited number of dogs. We were spending close to $85k/year.  We asked for an increase in the amount they were giving us and they turned it down. Instead, they drive the dogs 1 hour  (Each way) out of the county and pay that county $40k/year for 100 dogs. The county has decided not to inform the public. It's a mess. They tell them to let the dogs go if they even answer calls. 



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    Liz Kowal
    Executive Director
    Shiawassee Humane Society
    Owosso MI
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  • 17.  RE: Researching policies for picking up/not picking up stray or lost dogs when shelters are full. What do you do?

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 09-17-2024 01:19 PM
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    We are having an issue with this. Our ACO does not pick up cats (even though its part of city code) and good sams think they are saving everyone by picking up every single animal. Here's where we are having problems, citizen 1 picks up stray cat, takes it home, names it, feeds it, provides shelter for 2 months, all the sudden their dog isnt liking the cat. They contact us and need to surrender a "Stray" cat and they do not want to wait because it "isnt their cat" so they think they shouldn't have to go through normal surrender process. I get the sentiment and I know they have good intentions. Any ideas on how to either A.) help these people realize that you took responsibility for a living being so technically it is yours. or B.) to not pick up and take home a cat you have no intentions of keeping or caring for C.) Contacting shelters/rescues prior to picking up the cat and not assume we have immediate room. 

    I know this is a double edge sword, it is frustrating from a shelter/rescue standpoint and I'm sure for the finders as well.