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Meeting dogs’ fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

  • 1.  Meeting dogs’ fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 03-27-2024 10:01 AM

    Hi, 

     Dogs who experience stress in the shelter environment might behave differently than they would in a home. What factors can we modify to help improve their welfare and get to know the dog as an individual?  

    Join us on Wednesday, April 3 at 9 am PT/noon ET when we’ll hear from @Michael Shikashio of AggressiveDog.com, who will highlight key factors to ensure the behavioral well-being of dogs and explore considerations such as breed, enrichment, social interactions, medical care, and the overall environment. The focus will be on preventive measures to reduce the likelihood of behavioral concerns and effective strategies for addressing existing issues. This presentation aims to guide caretakers in providing comprehensive care for difficult-to-place dogs, ensuring their welfare while searching for a suitable home. 

    Learn more or register for Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition.  Day 2 happens on Wednesday, April 3 from 9a – 1p/PT, 12p – 4p ET.    

     This thread has been created so that we have a place to discuss and ask questions about this topic now and after the Camp Maddie event.  


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  • 2.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 03-28-2024 01:08 AM

    Had mike on the simplifying shelter Behaviour podcast this week. He's a great speaker. Looking forward to this 



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    Tom Candy
    behaviour and welfare trustee
    Hope Rescue
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  • 3.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 03-28-2024 09:33 PM

    Hi, Tom, can you tell me the name of your podcast. Michael is always a treat to listen too.



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  • 4.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 03-29-2024 02:23 AM

    Hi,

    simplifying shelter Behaviour =] 

    https://open.spotify.com/show/1Ea6VTImAPcnlXilJYunij



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    Tom Candy
    behaviour and welfare trustee
    Hope Rescue
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  • 5.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 09:57 AM

    Jenny Franz (You): We have a 10-month old dog whose behavior drastically changed after his neuter. We are at a place where we don't know if it's neuter related, transition related (recently surrendered) or age related. He went from being over friendly to strangers and dogs to being very reactive. At this point he is a liability to adopt out but we don't want to give up on him. The sudden change in behavior has us truly puzzled. Any advice?

    dog standing on tree trunk



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    Better Together Dog Rescue
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  • 6.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 03:32 PM

    Hi Jenny! Thanks so much for your question and for sharing the lovely pic!
    The question of whether his particular neuter has negatively impacted his behavior is more for a veterinarian first (as we would want to rule out underlying medical contributors; procedural side effects; etc.). 
    From a behavior lens, social adolescence; developmental stages (formerly referred to as a secondary fear period); genetics; change in environment; and negative experience(s) can also impact the behavior changes. It can often be difficult to truly pinpoint the cause of the behavior change. 
    Typically (with my clients who have "new to newer-ish to the home" dogs) that have recently been spayed/neutered, we first rule out medical issues with the vet then look at goals for length of time to determine how much the behavior changes (if the dog is adolescent or new to the environment.) During this "waiting period" we also focus on behavior change exercises such as counter-conditioning and ensuring we are meeting enrichment needs. :) 



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    Michael Shikashio
    CEO
    AggressiveDog.com
    CT
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  • 7.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 09:59 AM

    Q&A question...

    We see a drastic change in behavior when moving dogs from our holding wing to adoption wing. Our holding kennels face each other so they see dogs constantly. Our adoption wing is one long row of kennels and they can't see other dogs until they walk by. Do you feel there's a correlation between kennel set ups and aggression? Most of our staff bites have been in our adopt wing. Behaviors go from dog reactive/aggressive, leashing issues, and more kennel frustration in general. DH has no windows, but DA does. 



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    McKenzie Cook
    Canine Placement Coordinator
    Lincoln County Animal Services
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  • 8.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 03:32 PM

    Hi McKenzie!
    Great question! It is difficult to say for sure without more info about the setup though I am leaning towards "cumulative stress" that could potentially be impacted by:
    - longer length of stay (albeit a short increase in duration as I am assuming the dogs go from DH to DA in a reasonable time period)
    - change in environment as added stressor
    - more social isolation since the dogs can no longer see other dogs
    Though, this is all just supposition at this point! Sometimes it can be the "obvious aspects" such as added stress from longer LOS, but in some cases it may not be obvious, such as different lighting or smells in a certain location. It might require a bit of detective work to truly pinpoint the potential cause for the noted higher frequency of aggression in the DA wing!



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    Michael Shikashio
    CEO
    AggressiveDog.com
    CT
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  • 9.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:06 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "We have a feral dog, about 2 years old, which we rescued from a wooded area.  We are slowly building trust and she allows us to pet her now.  I've been trying to find a way to stimulate her mind while she is in the pen.  She ignores chew toys, ropes, etc.  What would you suggest?"



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  • 10.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 03:33 PM

    I might lean towards "nose instead of mouth." The sky is the limit with interesting scents that can create an olfactory Disney! 
    Different fabrics (if safe to do so with her not chewing/swallowing) infused with things like deer pee; fish oil; dried shrimp; etc. ---- think stinky and different --- hung from the sides of the pen might stimulate her to start scavenging for the treats inside the toys you are using now. 
    The good ole frozen water bowl with different high value/stinky items frozen in the water can also be a long lasting enrichment item. 
    Cardboard boxes with newspaper that has stinky items hidden in the wrapped up wads of paper is another cheap and easy to make item as well!



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    Michael Shikashio
    CEO
    AggressiveDog.com
    CT
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  • 11.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 05:16 PM

    How is this young "feral dog" with other dogs (preferably with a "helper dog" that has good dog skills)? Sometimes feral dogs do better with other dogs than humans. For those dogs, I use the helper dog to lure the feral dog closer to interactions with humans. By pairing their good interaction with a dog with closing the threshold of comfortable proximity to humans. Also, other comfort exercises paired with novel experiences.  Such as things like feed using a snuffle mat with a human, initially with the human putting zero extra pressure on the dog (such as human's back turned and not moving while the dog eats). Then with each positive feeding, gradually and slowly increase closer proximity and turning sideways to the dog but do not make eye contact or reach out for the dog. Anytime you stand up to leave, roll high value soft treat in the direction of the dog and turn away from the dog and lean away from the dog as you stand up. I hope this makes sense. This is just one example of B-mod for feral dogs. Hopefully, you can build and expand on this if you haven't already done so. Also, you can utilize a remote feeder at the back of the run, away from humans, to dispense treat away from human to help the dog learn to fix any pressure itself. 



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    Megan Alexander
    Pit Bull Rescue Central, https://www.pbrc.net
    "where education meets rescue"
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  • 12.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:08 AM

    Question from the chat:

    "I feel like I have a harder time getting clients or colleagues to look for pain more in-depth. Maybe I am not being assertive enough about the fact that they may have a medical issue. Sometimes medical issues are also overlooked or misdiagnosed by a vet, and may need to be re-evaluated again by another vet. Which I find, challenging to push people to look further again. Any tips?"



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  • 13.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 05:54 PM
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    Hi everyone!

    I created a little video to answer questions 12-23. :) 

    https://www.loom.com/share/9f62cf776ffa4b08bf8fb6cc17312cf5?sid=5ff63e34-5152-4e74-8732-cbdd200772e5

    I also attached a transcript of my responses in a Word document (where I repeat the questions so they show up in the text.) :) 



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    Michael Shikashio
    CEO
    AggressiveDog.com
    CT
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  • 14.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:09 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "In your vast experience of dealing with 'aggression,' have you dealt with dogs with sensory deprivation e.g. hearing issues and vision problems (not frank blindness)?"



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  • 15.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:10 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Due to overcrowding and lack of resources, we frequently shelter dogs that come in and don't leave their kennel for 2-3 weeks.  Then staff aren't able to get them out at that point.  They have become so barrier-aggressive. Is there coming back from that situation?"



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  • 16.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:11 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "What do you think about the dog's diet and how that reflects on their behavior?"



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  • 17.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:11 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Are there resources in building a good snifari with limited space?"



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  • 18.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:12 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Your story with Sally is wonderful :) I think you said you had 80 sessions with her? How do you set expectations with the guardians so they are open to the process and don't get impatient or give up along the way? And how do you approach the conversation when the family has financial limitations and can only afford a limited number of sessions?"



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  • 19.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:13 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "How can you figure out if underlying pain is the cause of aggression if the dog has stranger danger and struggles with vet visits?"



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  • 20.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:14 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "We have a super shut down Cattle dog mix that we got into a foster home, and started her on some behavior meds.  She is doing okay, she has just started eating in front of her foster and will go for short walks (has been in the home for 6 weeks).  We are looking for a permanent home for her, but we worry that moving to a new home will start back from square one.  Any tips for these shut down dogs to transition to a new caretaker?"



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  • 21.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:15 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Do you think that we are asking dogs to do things and be what they are not naturally like as our life style changes?"



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  • 22.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:16 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "What do you think about social media and creating false expectations towards dogs? I see that all the time, people get a dog and they don't understand all the work and dedication and understanding and love behind a well-behaved dog. Not to mention those poor dogs that come from bad situations, either puppy stores, abuse etc."



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  • 23.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:17 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "I recently sought a consult with an excellent canine physical therapist. She did an extremely thorough 60-90 minute exam, looked at Eli's xrays, diagnosed issues that the vet had not been able to, and is showing me exercises to do with him in addition to treating him. It was expensive, but completely worth it. After 3 sessions, I'm seeing a decrease in anxiety and reactivity as well as an improvement in posture and gait. Q: do you commonly recommend PT evals in conjunction with vets? My vet didn't suggest it; it was something I brought up."



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  • 24.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:17 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Working in a shelter we don't have any idea about a lot of our dogs history. We have one who 'freezes' as his first cue, this lead to escalation and an attempted bite. now there's talk of euthanasia, how do you bring the conversation to the staff that this dog needs better understanding?"



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  • 25.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 04-03-2024 10:18 AM

    Unanswered question from the chat:

    "Thank you so much for doing this, Mike! In my anecdotal observations, I feel farm dogs or dogs that are kind of free ranging across properties (specifically in Europe), that tend to have no formal training, seem to be more responsive to coming when called (and look less stressed overall), do you think this is similar to what you were talking about with street dogs, just having so much more agency in their lives and probably more enriched overall than dogs in homes/shelters?"



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  • 26.  RE: Meeting dogs' fundamental needs w/ Michael Shikashio (Camp Maddie: Behavior Edition Day 2)

    Posted 02-02-2026 04:23 PM

    I absolutely enjoyed this webanar it helped clear some topics that I was struggling with 



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    Kerrie King
    Owner
    SECOND CHANCE FOR LOVE ANIMAL RESCUE
    MS
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