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What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

  • 1.  What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-08-2023 11:34 AM

    Hi!

    We are starting to discuss a much-needed re-design of our dog kennels. I am curious if anyone is able to share what has or has not worked with recent kennel updates in your facility. Most specifically, kennel doors. If anyone is comfortable sharing photos that would be tremendously helpful as well!

    Thank you,


    #Behavior,TrainingandEnrichment

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    Tina Hope
    Shelter Behaviorist
    Seattle Animal Shelter
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  • 2.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-08-2023 05:57 PM

    What doors are you talking about? Kennel runs? Dog doors between in/out? What about your outside space? What is available to the dogs and is it part of the re-vamp? What are you already working with and what do you want to offer?



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
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  • 3.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-09-2023 05:16 AM

    We use welded kennels every chance we can.   Sometimes 10x10 and some are 6x10.   We share a side wall of welded panels to save on cost.    Then we strategically place dogs to Avoid  issues between those sharing the panel.   



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    Laura Coan
    Volunteer
    Novastar Rescue
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  • 4.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 09-14-2023 07:54 AM
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    What are you looking to improve or what problems are you looking to solve? 

    For one, Having to walk dogs past other dogs is a huge issue. Many of the dogs are already stressed, and barking when dogs are going out, then seeing a dog walk by accelerates this.  It's bad enough when it's am aggressive dog, but even dog friendly dogs get worse and become more dog reactive over time. 

    Being able to get them outside without walking past other kennels is ideal. Something solid that blocks the bottom/visual aspect doesnt totally fix the problem but is helpful. 




  • 5.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-14-2023 08:28 AM

    Yes. I do it all day and you can see the results.

    I help them. The environment helps them. Just because yours doesn't, doesn't mean it's not possible. Why I'm here! To help people know and choose a better way.

    Blocking sight lines interferes with my ability to communicate with all the dogs in the moment and can add much undo stress.  You've not loved the difference. I want to give yaz a chance to do so, but not beyond your current abilities.

    For me it's a benefit, not a problem.  If I have a dog that is a danger to itself or others, I can put additional precautions in place so That dog feels safe and can adapt comfortably.

    When I walk a dog thru the 'gauntlet', (so many times already today), my dog on lead is not the only one I'm paying attention to, or paying! 



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
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  • 6.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-29-2023 06:12 AM

    Oh my goodness. When I first read that last line I thought, well, of course I pay attention to the other dogs. But this morning I reread this and a light went on - I observe the other dogs, but I don't pay them when I walk by with a dog. Mostly I try to hustle past to minimize the time they're reacting. 

    I'll give it a try, but it is hard to imagine. We have what seems to be the usual hallway of kennels facing kennels so there are the two sides to deal with. I know they get used to waiting for me to get to them when I've been consistently treating them when I show up in the kennel, so in theory they'd get used to the dog walk treats. It's hard to imagine adding a dog in tow to the treating routine, but honestly, a lot about successfully working with dogs can be achieved by sticking with the theory. 



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    Eudora Watson
    Volunteer
    Potsdam Humane Society Shelter
    New York
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  • 7.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-29-2023 02:38 PM

    The kennel I managed before building this one was like that, dogs in runs on both sides of the walkway.  Slow down, breathe, let the dogs take notice, stay quiet and watch your timing and delivery.  I'll never forget the first time the whole kennel got 1 click !! I just had to enter and wait.  They knew what they wanted and knew how to get it :)

    For me it's not theory, but actual practice . Everyday. Be aware of what you Do do, and realize it's ok for dogs to bark, just not if it's a nuisance.



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
    TX
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  • 8.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-14-2023 08:30 AM

    I forgot-

    if your dogs, especially the easy ones, are Not  "getting better" over time, you Definitely need to reassess how the dogs are being kept. (KEPT included all aspects of care -MMT)



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
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  • 9.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous
    Posted 09-22-2023 11:50 AM
    This message was posted by a user wishing to remain anonymous

    Our shelter is set up where our dog kennels are directly across from each other, 10 on each side.  Each kennel does have a bottom barrier, however the large dogs can stand and see through the bars so they have access to the dog next to them and also can see the ones across from them.  Usually the bottom barrier does help, however when taking the animal out of the kennel and walking them down that gauntlet is a huge challenge.    So I agree would be great to get some feedback from others on what set ups they have to help deal with the gauntlet walk.




  • 10.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 12:22 PM

    I would love to see some inside designs as well. We are in the process of holding a new building which will house 20 kennels, 10 across from another 10.   There will be an 8 ft walkway between them.   We are also discussing kennel doors that would let the dogs go out to a play area from their indoor kennel when opened.   By pictures and we too would love to see how you divide the kennels next to each other.  Right now our butt right up to the other.  Thanks 



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    Laura Coan
    Volunteer
    Novastar Rescue
    AR
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  • 11.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 01:40 PM

    Hi Anonymous,

    Ok. Walking the gauntlet.  Do I understand correctly that you are depending on a visual barrier to calm the dogs?  Ineffective, right?

    When you walk thru Without a dog, is it still a challenge?

    I need to know if you are counting on the barrier, leaving it up to the dogs to make it easier, only focusing on the dog in hand as you walk thru, or actively participating in their behavior modification of all within your routine?

    So I condition all my boarders to expect something (i.e. a kibble) to come to them Under their nose height, and I bet others do too, whether I have a dog out or not.  Positive associations- because I am walking past you are focused on ME and it's worth it to You. 

    Do I need to go into more detail?  

    Be proactive. It's easy to condition yourself to slide kibbles under bottom rails. Watch your timing and delivery and things should get easier.



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
    TX
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  • 12.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 02:06 PM

    Great information.  I appreciate that suggestions.  I get that behavior training during the process is the best for long term adoptions opportunities as well. Teaching the dogs to ignore what's not necessary to focus on.  Thanks so much



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    Laura Coan
    Volunteer
    Novastar Rescue
    AR
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  • 13.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-23-2023 08:44 AM

    Thanks. Just needed a reminder? :)

    Choosing to engage ( or not) is management.

    How you engage is also management, and leads to modification.

    Consistent modification conditions and trains behavior patterns.

    IMO, LIMA should include it all. Not just training techniques, but that seems to be the focus. (?)

    Getting it and doing it are very different things.
    Everyone:  Choose to practice your skills with every opportunity.  You'll see the benefits.

    I'm trying to give everyone an environment in which they can more easily, do. I believe most shelters are not designed for ease of operation (that benefits dogs), although may think they are, only because it's what they know. Not judging.  Just stating.

    The environment should be Setting not just the dogs up to succeed, but any person choosing to interact.  

    The shift needed is not just in the physical applications.



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
    TX
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  • 14.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-23-2023 10:08 AM

    Diane,

    What a great insight!

    Training and management aka engagement happen 24/7. What we do and how we do it is so important and all interactions should be directed by the dog's body language. They communicate all the time, we just need to learn to listen. Keep in mind that the environment also dictates behaviors and if we are clever we can use or modify the environment to help us out. I agree with you 200%. 



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    Julielani Chang
    The Life of Kai: Compassion Connections Inc.
    Davis CA
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  • 15.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-23-2023 02:56 PM

    BINGO!!

    alter the space so it works for dogs and 

    BINGO!!BINGO!!

    (think Temple and cows)

    I have been listening and it's time to share :) so you enjoy your time. 
    Does any of you feel sad / upset / angry in the shelter environment? 

    You can only change yourself, not others  We manipulate the dogs, but in a good way.



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    Diane Cuff
    Owner/operator
    Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
    TX
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  • 16.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-28-2023 04:59 PM

    Diane, 

    Offering the treat "under their nose height" is an excellent strategy for getting "four on the floor" and calmer dogs. 

    I do find that if everyone consistently gets a treat when I go by, they learn they don't need to shout for my attention. It's one of those things I come back to when I've gotten lax with it. Having the "under their nose" in mind is a great memory device. 



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    Eudora Watson
    Volunteer
    Potsdam Humane Society Shelter
    New York
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  • 17.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 06:03 PM

    Hi Tina,

    I think Best Friends has the best design for their original kennels. They house 5-6 dogs per unit built like a hexagon. In the middle of the hexagon is a workstation so the dogs don't see each other. Each kennel is connected to its own yard and the dogs don't need to do a gauntlet walk. I try to find photos but the best way to share this is to use a map. You can see the hexagon structure and the outdoor yard connected to the kennels. I volunteered at Best Friends years ago and have always felt this design is very clever. 

    kennel layout of Best Friends map



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    Julielani Chang
    The Life of Kai: Compassion Connections Inc.
    Davis CA
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  • 18.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 06:31 PM

    Where is best friends located and I will try and look them up?  TY



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    Laura Coan
    Volunteer
    Novastar Rescue
    AR
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  • 19.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-22-2023 08:32 PM
    The octagon is in the background, each kennel open out to an individual play yard.

    Hi Laura,

    They are in Kanab, Utah. Here is the link https://bestfriends.org/locations. I found a few more photos. So Best Friends refer to the building as the octagon so maybe it is not a hexagon after all.

    One of the many octagons at Best Friends
    The center of the octagon is removed in this photo but that is where food is prepared, and serves as a storage space. You can see the kennels in the background


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    Julielani Chang
    The Life of Kai: Compassion Connections Inc.
    Davis CA
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  • 20.  RE: What is or is not working about your dog kennels?

    Posted 09-28-2023 05:02 PM

    I love this question as we'll be looking at a makor overhaul and are investigating kennel design. One thing I'd love to hear about is if/how folks incorporate levels for the dogs, for examples platforms they can get up on, or cubby holes they can use. At this point we just have raised beds and the current kennels are not a good size for adaptations. 



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    Eudora Watson
    Volunteer
    Potsdam Humane Society Shelter
    New York
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