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How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

  • 1.  How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 23 days ago

    Hello everyone,

    We are developing Standard Operating Procedures for a collaboration of various volunteers and groups to work together on a TNR program doing mass-trapping projects. One of our most argued over topics among the various participants is how long should we hold TNR cats for recovery after their surgeries.

    My standard practice has been to return males and females who weren't pregnant or in heat on the day after their surgeries. I would hold females who were pregnant or in heat for about 48-72 hours after surgery depending on how stressed they seemed. 

    Other group participants want to hold for less time, others want to hold for more time, and it's been a source of friction. So I'm looking for any general guidance from experts (especially medical experts) on this topic. 


    #CommunityCatManagement

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    Jennifer Fuhrman
    TNR coordinator
    Save our Cats and Kittens
    FL
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  • 2.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    Hi Jennifer

    This is what my vets and I have developed through testing since I started the TNR programme 5 years ago. Generally it is a same day evening return, or next morning.

    The surgery team has worked out a specific protocol for TNRs, using extra internal stitches and more glue, to enable this faster return to field and a very secure surgical wound. 

    All our surgeries are done early in the day, so the cats are finished by 11.30, with the aim to release later in the day for as many cases as possible. If the surgeries are in the afternoon for any reason, they'd be released the next morning.

    Males are given the lightest sedation possible so they are basically fully alert by 12.30. Uncomplicated surgery - they  are held in their traps until about 17.30 (5.30 pm) and released. 

    Males with complications (cryptorchidism, teeth needing removal or badly infected wounds) - 5-7 day hold in cages, not the trap, for antibiotic therapy and fuller recovery. 

    Females with no complications - if they are fully alert and happy, they are released about the same time as the boys, but if they seem a little groggy, they are considered for release about 21.00 (9pm) and if not ready, have an overnight in the trap and go back early morning.

    Females with spay/abort or internal infection, retained foetuses, teeth removal etc, I hold in cages for 5-10 days. Aim is to return at 6 days in most cases.  If the cat is very distressed and not adjusting to the cage, she would be released sooner, after consultation with the vet. Our cages can be put in the car, so they're released straight from cage to colony. 



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    Bettina Vine
    Animal Health Director
    The Kitten Connection
    Peniche, Portugal
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  • 3.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    Our TNR cats get returned the morning after they had surgery so close to or slightly less than 24 hours. We have them recover from sedation inside their traps so you don't have to stress any of them out by transferring to a kennel and then back into a trap. Occasionally we may have some medical reasons for holding for a couple days for observation such as vomiting or if they had some dental work.



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    Laurel Wilton
    Feline Welfare Supervisor
    Nebraska Humane Society
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  • 4.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    We have been doing TNVR only for over 13 years.  We do approximately 200 cats per month with an all-volunteer team.

    Our protocol is to return the morning after surgery unless there was an extenuating circumstance (which should be rare).  While they could be returned the same day in many cases, because of the concerns of roaming dogs and cars, we want the cats to be alert as possible.   We make sure that they have eaten and they look alert.    Keeping them an extra day may actually inhibit their ability to recover because of the stress of being in captivity. 

    If there is reason to be concerned about a cat that had an unusually difficult surgery, then watch an additional day, but no longer if possible.  As long as the cat is eating and drinking, you are good to go.  However, there are also cats that are too stressed  to eat and those you have to go with your gut, with of course the input from the vet regarding anything difficult about the particular cat or surgery. 

    I will add that we learned this the hard way.  We used to keep the cats a couple of days and so many of them broke with upper respiratory or just shut down.     It is important to remember just how resilient these community cats are.  So different, in fact, from our pampered kitties inside! :)  



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    Samantha Polen
    Executive Director
    T-Town TNR, Inc.
    Tulsa OK
    https://www.ttowntnr.com/
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  • 5.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    Our vets at the very start were pretty new  to TNR so of the first few, we had 2 or 3 on longer holds as they thought best - then I  did see the shutdowns happen, especially post 4 days. If they are not eating and this appears to be because of distress, they go back out and are monitored in the colony.  

    I'm trialling a 3 day hold after difficult spays right now; the first couple were good so we feel confident to continue trying the shorter period.

    On heat - they aren't held longer. I didn't answer that above. I simply don't have space, and we've never seen any need or had any problems post return on them. 



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    Bettina Vine
    Animal Health Director
    The Kitten Connection
    Peniche, Portugal
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  • 6.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    My concern with them being in heat when they're spayed is that males will still sense their pheromones and harass them after their surgery, since the pheromones take several days to disapate. I hate to release a female after a spay for her to have to fight off males while recovering. I've had a hard time finding information on how long it takes after surgery for the pheromones to disapate so I generally go with holding her 48 hours 



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    Jennifer Fuhrman
    TNR coordinator
    Save our Cats and Kittens
    FL
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  • 7.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 20 days ago

    This I tested. I had some in heat ones who went back to very tightly monitored colonies the same day as surgery. I asked the carers to watch carefully for any issues with intact males (one colony still had about 6 males, the other at least 3), and those females didn't have problems with the males hassling them.  So it's not a concern for us.



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    Bettina Vine
    Animal Health Director
    The Kitten Connection
    Peniche, Portugal
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  • 8.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 21 days ago

    Thank you so much for the reply. Does a mid-late term spay/abort qualify as extenuating circumstances for a longer hold in your policy? If so, do you hold those for 48 hours? 



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    Jennifer Fuhrman
    TNR coordinator
    Save our Cats and Kittens
    FL
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  • 9.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 20 days ago

    Yes, absolutely. 



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    Osi Kaminer
    Super Cats
    b36@gardensnyc.net
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  • 10.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 20 days ago

    Thank you for the reply Samantha. Are mid-late term spay/aborts considered extenuating circumstances in your policy? If so, how long do you typically hold them for recovery?  



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    Jennifer Fuhrman
    TNR coordinator
    Save our Cats and Kittens
    FL
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  • 11.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 20 days ago

    Sadly, these are not considered extenuating circumstances.  We return most all spay/abort kitties the next day.  However, if the kitty seems uncomfortable or seems "off" at all, we might give them an extra day.  Very rarely, we have to return one to a vet... but that is VERY rare.  We do work with veterinarians that are familiar with cats and some have worked in shelter medicine for many years.  The spay incision is very small and all females who are having spay/abort are given sub-Q fluids.  We also pay attention to the climate outside.  If the temps are very cold, we might wait an extra day or release later in the day as the females may have more trouble keeping body temps up after surgery.  All that to say, make sure your staff and volunteers are attentive to the cats and that the recovery area they are in is quiet and no more "scary" than it has to be. 

    Don't freak out if a cat doesn't pee or poop overnight.  Most are stressed out and while most will eat and drink, some will not.  Make sure that the cat's head is up and eyes are clear.   If you have attentive feeders/caregivers, that helps too.  They will be aware of anything that may seem off.  I hope that helps. :) 



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    Samantha Polen
    Executive Director
    T-Town TNR, Inc.
    Tulsa OK
    https://www.ttowntnr.com/
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  • 12.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 20 days ago

    I release no cat until they eat, drink, pee, and poop. This is the ASPCA recommendation. So I hold cats anywhere between 2-6 days.

    Sometimes there are complications, and cats need to go back to the vet before getting released. Retrapping is a waste of time, 



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    Osi Kaminer
    Super Cats
    b36@gardensnyc.net
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  • 13.  RE: How long to hold TNR cats for recovery after surgeries

    Posted 4 days ago

    HI Jennifer,

    The cats I trap I can only hold overnight.  They are returned the following morning.  My volunteers that do all their own trap, transport and recovery all have their own timeline, but they don't hold females longer than 2 days.  Our vets support what is best for the cat and agree that holding on to these cats is too stressful and can cause more unesscessary issues.  Get them back to their normal routine!   



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    Cathy Houde
    Pet Alliance of Greater Orlando
    Orlando FL
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