Animal Welfare Professionals

Hello, I'm new to the group, so please excuse the question if it has been discussed previously.  My name is Ronnie DeForrest, DVM, and I am the veterinarian for McMinn Regional Humane Society in Athens, TN.  We had a particularly rough season last season with URIs in kittens.  We currently give FVRCP parenterally on intake, however, I attended a CE video presentation recently, and I'm pretty sure the presenter said intranasal vaccines provide protection faster because of mucosal contact. (I can't remember the presenter)   Intranasal vaccines are labeled by manufacturer for 12 week or  older healthy kittens/cats.   I can't get the vaccine manufacturer to commit to whether it is safe or effective to give to young kittens. 

Does anyone have experience or feedback?  I'm just curious if IN vaccines would be advantageous.

Thanks

#AdmissionsandIntake(includingIntake-to-placement)

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Ronnie DeForrest
Veterinarian
McMinn Regional Humane Society
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Hi Ronnie! 

I'm now following your thread because I actually have a different slant on your question: we've been thinking about shelter use of the intranasal vaccine as a treatment for those with "chronic" URI - those that seem to keep relapsing, or have had symptoms for 3 weeks. That vaccine would just be the FVRC, without the panleukopenia portion. 

So I'm also wondering how many people have used the intranasal vaccine, and what kind of results they did or did not see! 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26269455/

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Kirsten Cianci
Palmetto Animal League
Ridgeland, SC 29936
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Original Message:
Sent: 03-23-2023 01:30 PM
From: Ronnie DeForrest
Subject: Intranasal Vaccinations to kittens?

Hello, I'm new to the group, so please excuse the question if it has been discussed previously.  My name is Ronnie DeForrest, DVM, and I am the veterinarian for McMinn Regional Humane Society in Athens, TN.  We had a particularly rough season last season with URIs in kittens.  We currently give FVRCP parenterally on intake, however, I attended a CE video presentation recently, and I'm pretty sure the presenter said intranasal vaccines provide protection faster because of mucosal contact. (I can't remember the presenter)   Intranasal vaccines are labeled by manufacturer for 12 week or  older healthy kittens/cats.   I can't get the vaccine manufacturer to commit to whether it is safe or effective to give to young kittens. 

Does anyone have experience or feedback?  I'm just curious if IN vaccines would be advantageous.

Thanks

#AdmissionsandIntake(includingIntake-to-placement)

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Ronnie DeForrest
Veterinarian
McMinn Regional Humane Society
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Hi Kristen - 

I talked to Dr Lappin about this research at Western States a couple years ago. I have tried it in rescue and have seen less than 50% of chronic URI resolve, mostly in kittens to be honest.  It has worked better in cats affected for less time. However, our long time chronic URI did not resolve and inflammation associated with dental disease/stomatitis did not improve. We found the greatest improvement with preventing the chronic status from occuring by using nasal vaccines at intake. During that conversation he also talked about using doxycycline in these cats and I have found that to be most helpful in the long time chronic URI cats. Hope that helps! 

Hi Ronnie! 

I'm now following your thread because I actually have a different slant on your question: we've been thinking about shelter use of the intranasal vaccine as a treatment for those with "chronic" URI - those that seem to keep relapsing, or have had symptoms for 3 weeks. That vaccine would just be the FVRC, without the panleukopenia portion. 

So I'm also wondering how many people have used the intranasal vaccine, and what kind of results they did or did not see! 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26269455/

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Kirsten Cianci
Palmetto Animal League
Ridgeland, SC 29936
=^..^=

Original Message:
Sent: 03-23-2023 01:30 PM
From: Ronnie DeForrest
Subject: Intranasal Vaccinations to kittens?

Hello, I'm new to the group, so please excuse the question if it has been discussed previously.  My name is Ronnie DeForrest, DVM, and I am the veterinarian for McMinn Regional Humane Society in Athens, TN.  We had a particularly rough season last season with URIs in kittens.  We currently give FVRCP parenterally on intake, however, I attended a CE video presentation recently, and I'm pretty sure the presenter said intranasal vaccines provide protection faster because of mucosal contact. (I can't remember the presenter)   Intranasal vaccines are labeled by manufacturer for 12 week or  older healthy kittens/cats.   I can't get the vaccine manufacturer to commit to whether it is safe or effective to give to young kittens. 

Does anyone have experience or feedback?  I'm just curious if IN vaccines would be advantageous.

Thanks

#AdmissionsandIntake(includingIntake-to-placement)

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Ronnie DeForrest
Veterinarian
McMinn Regional Humane Society
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Hi Samantha:
That is really interesting information. I hope you don't mind a few more questions!

*Intranasal vaccine at intake: any specific age? Or all kittens' first vaccine regardless? We have a lot of kittens that go out into foster. In that case, would you use the parenteral vaccine first, and then the intranasal when they come back to the shelter to stay?

*Doxycycline - at the first sign of a bacterial component to URI? That tends to be our first-line antibiotic when we get to that point, and I'm wondering if we're just stopping meds too soon. Did Dr. Lappin recommend a specific duration of therapy that then seemed to make a difference long-term? And doxy for your long-term URI cats - again, how long did you treat? 

*P.S. Full disclosure: When I was in private practice, I used to stalk Dr. Lappin lectures every chance I got! :)

Hi Kristen - 

I talked to Dr Lappin about this research at Western States a couple years ago. I have tried it in rescue and have seen less than 50% of chronic URI resolve, mostly in kittens to be honest.  It has worked better in cats affected for less time. However, our long time chronic URI did not resolve and inflammation associated with dental disease/stomatitis did not improve. We found the greatest improvement with preventing the chronic status from occuring by using nasal vaccines at intake. During that conversation he also talked about using doxycycline in these cats and I have found that to be most helpful in the long time chronic URI cats. Hope that helps! 

Hi Ronnie! 

I'm now following your thread because I actually have a different slant on your question: we've been thinking about shelter use of the intranasal vaccine as a treatment for those with "chronic" URI - those that seem to keep relapsing, or have had symptoms for 3 weeks. That vaccine would just be the FVRC, without the panleukopenia portion. 

So I'm also wondering how many people have used the intranasal vaccine, and what kind of results they did or did not see! 

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26269455/

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Kirsten Cianci
Palmetto Animal League
Ridgeland, SC 29936
=^..^=

Original Message:
Sent: 03-23-2023 01:30 PM
From: Ronnie DeForrest
Subject: Intranasal Vaccinations to kittens?

Hello, I'm new to the group, so please excuse the question if it has been discussed previously.  My name is Ronnie DeForrest, DVM, and I am the veterinarian for McMinn Regional Humane Society in Athens, TN.  We had a particularly rough season last season with URIs in kittens.  We currently give FVRCP parenterally on intake, however, I attended a CE video presentation recently, and I'm pretty sure the presenter said intranasal vaccines provide protection faster because of mucosal contact. (I can't remember the presenter)   Intranasal vaccines are labeled by manufacturer for 12 week or  older healthy kittens/cats.   I can't get the vaccine manufacturer to commit to whether it is safe or effective to give to young kittens. 

Does anyone have experience or feedback?  I'm just curious if IN vaccines would be advantageous.

Thanks

#AdmissionsandIntake(includingIntake-to-placement)

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Ronnie DeForrest
Veterinarian
McMinn Regional Humane Society
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Hello, I'm new to the group, so please excuse the question if it has been discussed previously.  My name is Ronnie DeForrest, DVM, and I am the veterinarian for McMinn Regional Humane Society in Athens, TN.  We had a particularly rough season last season with URIs in kittens.  We currently give FVRCP parenterally on intake, however, I attended a CE video presentation recently, and I'm pretty sure the presenter said intranasal vaccines provide protection faster because of mucosal contact. (I can't remember the presenter)   Intranasal vaccines are labeled by manufacturer for 12 week or  older healthy kittens/cats.   I can't get the vaccine manufacturer to commit to whether it is safe or effective to give to young kittens. 

Does anyone have experience or feedback?  I'm just curious if IN vaccines would be advantageous.

Thanks