Linda, I agree. "Stubborn" is an interpretation placed on the dog, not an explanation of the behavior. It tells us what the handler believes is happening, but it does not identify what is actually driving the response.
What is labeled stubbornness may reflect fear, stress, pain, confusion, conflicting signals, sensory impairment, previous learning, excessive arousal, caution, or self-preservation. In some cases, the dog may simply not understand what is being requested or may not be physically or emotionally capable of performing it in that environment.
This connects directly with my earlier response concerning the male dog who was turning and jumping toward the handler. Labeling him dominant, stubborn, or strong-willed would not explain why the behavior was occurring. Before recommending techniques, we would need to examine the leash and equipment, handler movement, environmental triggers, what happens immediately before and after the behavior, the dog's arousal and recovery, previous training methods, and possible pain, orthopedic, visual, hearing, or neurological concerns.
It also connects with a broader concern I recently raised in my post, "Closing the 'Aggressive Dog' Loophole: Should High-Risk Dog Training Require Standardized Intake?"
In that post, I argue that terms such as "aggressive dog" are often too broad and poorly defined. An untrained dog, a leash-reactive dog, a fear-based dog, a dog with one reported bite, and a dog involved in a cruelty or court case may all be placed under the same commercial label, even though they present very different behavioral, welfare, and public-safety concerns.
"Stubborn" creates the same problem on a smaller scale. Once the label is accepted as the explanation, investigation may stop. The trainer may focus on gaining compliance rather than asking what the dog is experiencing, what is triggering the response, and what the dog has learned will happen next.
Labels such as stubborn, dominant, difficult, reactive, and aggressive should be the beginning of an assessment-not its conclusion.
That is why standardized intake, careful behavioral classification, veterinary evaluation, and qualified veterinary behavior consultation are important. The goal should not be to overpower a supposedly difficult dog. It should be to understand the behavior accurately enough to select a safe, humane, and appropriate intervention.
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Richard Klapko
independent Forensic Investigator
Compassion in Action
CO
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-26-2026 05:07 AM
From: Linda Moore
Subject: Training very untrained dogs
The common use of "stubborn dog" needs to be addressed. Stubborn is NOT a trait of dogs, or any animal for that matter. It can be fear, stress, not understanding, or confusion. This is accorrding to UC Davis and several other universities. I hear stubborn used so many times about my breed. Actually it's is usually lack of understanding what the handler/owner wants the dog to do. Sometimes it can be confusion, caution, or self-preservation. I'm amazed at the number of trainers that have not done their homework. Any trainer that declares a dog stubborn needs to dig deeper and get some education. THere is a reason for veterinary animmal behaviorist.
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Linda Moore
Pet's Second Chance for Life Inc, DBA PSC Welsh Corgi Rescue
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Original Message:
Sent: 07-25-2026 10:02 AM
From: Richard Klapko
Subject: Training very untrained dogs
Justin and anyone else reading this respose, thank you for raising this. Based on the behaviors described, I would be cautious about labeling the male as dominant, stubborn, or simply strong-willed. Those descriptions do not identify what is driving the behavior, and technique-specific advice may be ineffective or potentially escalate the response without a more complete assessment.
This question cannot honestly be answered with three training tips. Before offering an intervention plan, someone would need to ask questions such as:
What leash length and equipment are being used?
Where does the turning and jumping occur?
Does it happen when the leash is shortened, tightened, or physically redirected?
What happens immediately before and after the behavior?
Is the dog approaching the handler, blocking, mouthing, jumping, or redirecting arousal?
Does the behavior occur with every handler?
Is it different on grass, pavement, near traffic, or around other dogs?
Has pain, orthopedic difficulty, impaired vision or hearing, or neurologic dysfunction been evaluated?
What corrections, handling methods, or training approaches were previously used?
Is food functioning as reinforcement, distraction, a lure, or a source of frustration?
How quickly does the dog recover after becoming aroused?
What has the dog learned the leash, handler position, and walking environment to mean?
These questions represent only the first layer. A complex case could easily require 30–40 relevant intake questions before anyone could responsibly recommend an intervention plan.
Before selecting a training approach, I would also want to review the dog's broader medical and injury history, possible pain or sensory limitations, trauma exposure, prior learning history, known triggers, body-language sequence, recovery time, handling methods, and behavior across different environments. Neurologic and neurobehavioral contributors should be considered when the history or observed behavior indicates that further screening may be appropriate.
I am a graduate student in the University of Florida Veterinary Forensic Sciences program and am developing a structured canine neurotrauma and neurobehavioral screening framework for complex and high-risk cases. My focus is distinguishing observable behavior from possible medical, neurologic, trauma-related, environmental, and learned contributors before determining an appropriate intervention pathway.
I would not feel comfortable recommending specific corrective techniques based on a written post alone. However, I would be glad to discuss the case privately and explore whether a structured records review, screening process, or professional collaboration could be helpful. Richard Klapko, contact me at klapkorichard@gmail.com i am willing to discusse a case with anyone that you Justin great question.
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Richard Klapko
independent Forensic Investigator
Compassion in Action
CO
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