So I run/rotate the dogs from 6:30 (pre sun-up /open for people 7am)-11am, incorporating lessons and rest, cleaning as I go. Most dog hours of elimination are in the am.
First feeding noonish (smalls in the house are started and eat before 6:30) Im still cleaning and doing all the things, dogs rest, and I repeat exercise rounds after 3pm. Supper 6ish.
The beauty is no one is isolated and I can work several dogs independently all at once, while they acclimate to each other, etc., and build confidence and relationships safely.
Original Message:
Sent: 09-20-2023 04:56 AM
From: Ky Xia
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
@Diane Cuff to address your question re: schedule:
We are very small home-based operation - 10-20 dogs at a time - but we have had to develop a solid schedule that works pretty much wherever we are. (We've had to move 3 times, across states!)
Our schedule looks like this - of course not exact but roughly:
6am- All dogs go out, in batches if necessary depending on the weather for pee/poop/play
7am- All dogs come in, puppies in crates, everyone else loose for relaxed play/nap
9am- Breakfast
9am- All dogs go out
9:30am- All dogs in crates
12pm- Potty and water break for everyone, back to crates
5pm- All dogs go out
6pm- Dinner
9pm- Last potty/water break, Bedtime
We basically run everything like a doggie day care. Because we have our dogs for much longer than the average shelter, we are able to let them be loose and play together, and isolate anyone with an issue (female in heat, teenage drama, puppies) but this is much much easier on us than trying to keep every single dog separate.
Then we pretty much always take a dog on every errand we run, that does involve being inside the car. Grocery/food pickup, we have a dog ride with us. Coffee shop or park excursion, we have a dog with us. This way, each dog usually gets a special "field trip" at least once a week.
My own experience and philosophy with dogs is that structure is #1. Love, affection, and play are very important but are all pointless if the dog has constant anxiety about when they are eating, drinking, and going potty!
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Ky Xia
Rescue Operations
Tender Hearts of Texas
Abilene TX
http://tenderheartsoftexas.org
Original Message:
Sent: 09-10-2023 10:37 AM
From: Diane Cuff
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
Hi all,
Eudora- fantastic job! You are an example of the people I'd like to reach. You are doing great work, but unfortunately, in an environment that works Against You And your students, both canine and human.
I'm here to talk about how, as a community, we can change that and enable people like you to really make a difference.
I'm here because I agree. I'll share a little more of specifics in minute.
First, Maggie, yes and yes. Please , all, take advantage of the positive resources available.
And Julielam, you hit the nail on the head with "they no longer have a routine." Plus, you mention what they go thru is traumatic. Let me show you a little of my routine for the dogs. All are One and one are All.
I'm here because it doesn't have to be. It can and SHOULD be a positive experience throughout for all.
This is what I do, and have maintained this routine over 25 years to keep dogs safe, happy, healthy, and learning every step of the way, sometimes literally. All of us.
For example,
This morning (every am with variations):
6am:
my little dog/ toy crew are released via dog door from their separate but communal (choices) living area to outside 1000+ sq ft yard while I prepare breakfast and meds (my dogs, cats, and boarding cats too)
(Today
4 chihuahuas
2 yorkies
2 cavaliers
1 maltipoo)
They are back in and separated to eat, I spot clean, check beds and waters while they eat and rest a minute for me to make my tea, then they are released for the day, I pick up/ wash plates, (love on everyone), and get ready to go out to the "big" dogs.
7am:
I have 10 in/outs, 2 outside, 3 separate foster/stray spaces.
Today
Lizzy-k9x adopted thru me after being labeled aggressive. (She was misunderstood and is a great family dog)
Huckleberry- intact male Golden (Lizzie's little brother)and Very inappropriately mouthy and jumpy
Baxter -minigoldendoodle(foster level 4 human bite)
*Myra(early release to help dad heal after procedure)was in lab breeding/training kennel until recently
Skye-shy but perfect 55#r
*LilBud-(early release freebie Vietnam vet medical need)
Radar-120# silver lab (foster level 3 human and dog bites)
MonStarBear-Belgian shepherd (foster confiscation thru state troopers)
Lucky&Momma-past shelter dogs inhome
Griffey- my sanctuary BlueLacy now 15 has been here around 7years
By 8:30 am
ALL have been leash walked (learning as needed) to free sniff/exercise in an individual yard), I have a layout and a system where we are separate together and together together)with Much individualized attention, there's so much opportunity and positive experiences for them (and me)to have I can't go into it all now. Business has been picked up as I go, and now all are locked inside (4x6 climate controlled inside-4x14 semi covered patio outside) as I disinfect and clean outside runs.
Not a peep. They take advantage of the rest, knowing there's more to come).
I continue rotation, meeting needs as needed (can explain further)as I clean and then a bigger exercise more specified and inclusive, until dogs are finished.
I usually walk 3-5 miles during this time. I'm sure some dogs do way more)
Imagine what all we learn! And I'm able to show people who the dogs Are. I want this for everyone. It will help in All areas.
It's now 11am and I'm taking this hour to write this post. All dogs are resting with access to space, and most importantly, we see each other throughout the process, even when they're behind a wall !!!
The day continues, and now I'm late to feeding the "big" dogs that morning exercise exercising is over. (One hour minimum between exercise and meals) I'll keep cleaning, they will eat, rest with chew/toy/, inside/outside by choice, until afternoon rounds. Then dinner. Repeat daily.
Dogs live In The Moment! I keep all the same dogs that enter shelters, and I'm not wanting to stop anything that you're all doing. I want to give you the space to excel on all fronts. I cannot let the dogs stay in a distressed state. What you say is true. I do it differently and those same dogs recover very very quickly as they Want to participate..
Ok! Back to work!
thanks, Diane
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Diane Cuff
Owner/operator
Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
Original Message:
Sent: 09-09-2023 04:53 PM
From: Julielani Chang
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
Eudora,
You are an amazing volunteer. Thank you for giving the dogs agency. We often don't realize how much these dogs lose when they end up in a shelter. They no longer have a routine, people they know, familiar smells and sounds, feeling safe, and social interactions with their people or with other house pets. A rug has been pulled under them. Instead, they are bombarded with smells they don't know, stressful barking noises from other dogs, and strange people. This is what trauma looks like. While many of these new occurrences can't be changed, building a relationship gives these dogs something to look forward to. Your quiet sitting with them is a gift. These dogs are very lucky to have you as their advocate. I thank you for being compassionate. We need more volunteers like you.
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Julielani Chang
The Life of Kai: Compassion Connections Inc.
Davis CA
Original Message:
Sent: 09-09-2023 11:11 AM
From: Eudora Watson
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
I completely agree that interaction equals training.
Diane, you ask about out-sourced training, but I'll contribute ideas about what training can be in-sourced. I'm not a credentialed trainer, I'm a volunteer who had lots of family pets and a few obedience and agility courses under my belt when I began volunteering. Before I started, I thought I was going to be "walking" the dogs (ha!), but actually, from the first day 2.5 years ago, I realized I was going to be training them, and I decided to gear that training to helping them become more adoptable. That goal incorporates, of course, the goal of helping them be less stressed in a less-than-ideal situation.
Now I've had a lot of shelter experience and many, many hours of watching videos and reading articles and books while I searched for effective approaches to whatever behaviors I was faced with at the shelter. Besides looking for answers via research, here's my approach, which has proved effective for me and possibly helpful for others.
Some volunteers try to take out as many dogs as possible during their visit - I focus on 2-3 dogs over time and work actively to develop a close bond with them. My process begins with selecting which dogs I work with. Early on, once they saw my success with a super smart but very naughty young dog, who was adopted a few weeks after I began working with her, the shelter staff pointed out a deaf cattle dog as one I might want for my next "project dog." That dog became my primary dog and I selected another dog and those two became my primary and secondary dogs. If I only had time for one dog in a visit, I always chose the primary dog. While I was working with those two dogs, I kept my eye out for the next candidate for when a slot opened up through adoption.(This system, with its built in decision process really helped me focus and not fall into feeling badly about the dogs I didn't have time to take out.)
I found I did well with dogs that were very fearful and expressed that by extreme avoidance (crouching, trembling, barking) or by extreme reactivity (lunging at the kennel door, screaming "get out of here").
For the very fearful dogs who practice avoidance, I generally start by just sitting in their kennel talking to them softly, not looking at them for the 20 minutes I allot to each dog. The first such dog I worked with taught me a ton - I decided after a few minutes of him watching me from the door to his outdoor run, that just sitting there wasn't going to work and left the kennel. But the next day I decided I'd just wait him out. I sat for 20 minutes and we made a tiny bit of progress. I was thinking, 'okay, it's going to be slow going.' But on our next visit I was able to leash him. He went to the far end of the leash and averted his gaze, but when I stood up to go he came right to me and we went for our first walk.
I usually begin work with a very reactive dog by making them my "third" dog (and the dog I spend the least time with, by far.) I stand outside their kennel while they do their thing - which can look and sound super aggressive - I try to remember to stand sideways and not look at them at first. I say, hello in a calm, level voice, use their name and tell them how good they are and toss a treat over the top of the door. Often they are so reactive at first there is no point in waiting for even a tiny bit of improvement. I just toss a treat into their kennel and move on. But it really doesn't take long for them to recognize me as good news on the way and their reactivity cuts way back. They begin on their own to meet me with four on the floor, and I can move from tossing the treat over the kennel door to popping it through the opening next to the kennel door - keeping my fingers safely on my side of the door.
With some dogs, before I take them out on my own, I meet them with a staff member in the exercise yard as an intro. I always defer to staff and let them know how things are going by sending them email updates with training details. Often, these updates are passed on to the new owner.
When I'm able to take a dog from its kennel, I triage based on the behavior I see. Reducing jumping is often a goal, grabbing treats, and basic cues are runners up. But I also work with dogs who present as aloof or not interested in play. Aloofness and no way to easily warm up to a dog in the meet and greet room isn't going to impress anyone. Honestly, anything is possible - it is tremendous fun to teach a dog who shows no interest in chasing balls to get into it whole-heartedly.
I generally end each visit to the shelter by going up and down the kennel hallway, stopping in front of each kennel to say hello and tossing a small treat to each dog, looking for the best behavior they're able to offer. It ups my reputation with all the dogs : ) and I also believe they are less likely to get agitated when they see me taking other dogs out because they know the sequence of events I set off when I arrive ends with them getting a treat. I love walking down a silent kennel giving out those treats. (Doesn't happen often because of other things going on or new dogs who don't know me, but when it does it is pretty golden). That trip also helps me get to know the dogs, which will be helpful when one or more of them gets a turn on my list.
I really appreciate all I'm learning through this site and hope this info is helpful!
I think two elements are crucial to the success I have: my willingness to develop a close bond with a dog I'm hoping to 'lose' through adoption, and the shelter personnel's advocacy for their dogs. One person in the staff/admin/volunteer universe who is enthusiastic about a dog can make all the difference in others' attitudes.
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Eudora Watson
Volunteer
Potsdam Humane Society Shelter
New York
Original Message:
Sent: 09-08-2023 05:51 PM
From: Diane Cuff
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
"One of the main reasons people relinquish ownership of their pets or seek euthanasia (of physically sound animals) is due to behavior concerns. Behavior concerns are the result of a need not being met in an animal. …"
Yes. So behavior problems within shelters are because of the same reasons. Do you agree their needs are not being met within the shelter structure?
"…So - all that to ask the hive mind of the Animal Welfare Professionals - how can we collectively provide more community behavior and training services to the general public, to foster homes, and to adopters to better tackle one of the primary reasons for surrender and often euthanasia?"
By having shelters be the epitome of dog care, where people can observe, learn about, interact with safely and help teach dogs necessary life skills through daily interactions, which they currently are not. Shelter environments are not, from what I see and No one has shown me differently, built for dogs. In fact, I need someone to explain to me how meeting the needs of dogs falls outside of the facility in which they're kept.
If you are interacting with a dog, even just holding the leash, you are "training" because the dog is actively learning.
Please share what a typical dog day is for those in your care.
What "behavior" problems need specialized outsourced instruction? Dog only?
What behaviors are you routinely looking to have trained?
What does a day for shelter staff look like?
What do employees need that they don't have?
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Diane Cuff
Owner/operator
Waggin'Tails Boarding Kennels
Original Message:
Sent: 09-08-2023 02:11 PM
From: Maggie Thomas
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
Honest question: for those of us in areas where dogs are dying in droves, and there aren't enough rescue spots for all of them, what's the logic behind fundraising $1500 for "behavior turnaround" that may or may not result in a dog that has to be "managed" for life due to fearful genetics causing fear-biting, when another dog with no temperament issues desperately needs that spot?
I could fundraise $1500 on orthopedics to fix a hit-by-car dog with GREAT temperament who will be a fantastic adoption ambassador and family pet. The risk seems a lot lower with the dog with the great temperament. To me, that $1500 would be better spent on the dog with the great temperament.
I say this as someone who HAS spent that $1500 and more on a variety of the best trainers, consulted with a board-certified vet behavorist at a vet school, and gave the dog over a year of rehab....only to have a dog that the vet behaviorist said was unadoptable and would never be safe in the community.
(Also: our insurer now has pretty strict standards on intake. I think small rescue orgs that are working with turn-around fear-biters might perhaps want to have their director check on their insurance with respect to dogs like that.)
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Maggie Thomas
President
Red Stick German Shepherd Rescue
Original Message:
Sent: 02-15-2023 12:08 PM
From: Sara Ondrako
Subject: How Can We Provide More Community Behavior and Training Services to Reduce Intakes and Returns?
One of the main reasons people relinquish ownership of their pets or seek euthanasia (of physically sound animals) is due to behavior concerns. Behavior concerns are the result of a need not being met in an animal. While this remains one of the highest reasons for surrendering, in the recent study published through Shelter Animals Count (2022) of services provided to the community by shelters and rescues to promote in-home retention of pets, behavior services were by far the least reported and equated to only 2.22% of community services offered. As a certified behavior professional, I've also been alarmed at some of the advice being handed out by rescue groups and volunteers for behavior modification and rehabilitation. not relying on a certified professional hurts retention rates as serious behavior problems inappropriately addressed or handled by outdated training methodologies increase the severity of the behavior problem over time. I do find that more and more rescues are beginning to budget for and hire behavior professionals but slowly goes the way of the buffalo as they say.
So - all that to ask the hive mind of the Animal Welfare Professionals - how can we collectively provide more community behavior and training services to the general public, to foster homes, and to adopters to better tackle one of the primary reasons for surrender and often euthanasia? What resources have you discovered in your community to help? Do you have a behavior and training outreach program for the community and if so - can you share what works for you and what doesn't? Have you received a grant to help with behavior and training you found particularly helpful? How do you keep up with the most current practices in behavior and training with your fosters, volunteers, staff members, and adopters? How can those of us in the behavior profession help you the most?
#AccesstoCare
#AdoptionsandAdoptionPrograms
#Behavior,TrainingandEnrichment
#EducationandTraining
#FosterPrograms
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Sara Ondrako
Certified Dog Behavior Consultant
Whole Dog Behavior and Wellness
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